Sweet, FBI sting with free 'Anom' app captures crooks

[Deleted member 77746]

yet the drugs are still as available as ever, I guess we can't really talk about it on this family friendly forum though.

the media gives the impression they are winning, they aren't.

use tor and do your own investigation

No thank you. I’ll leave that to others.

 

[Nasher]

There will always be a supply. Unless we go full Rodrigo Duterte.

 

[Pawnless Endgame]

This is simply whack-a-mole. Shut down some drugs organisations and more will pop up. This is because there will always be a demand for drugs.

Meanwhile, us mere mortals continue to lose more of our privacy in the never ending war on drugs.

 

[Deleted member 77746]

This is simply whack-a-mole. Shut down some drugs organisations and more will pop up. This is because there will always be a demand for drugs.

Meanwhile, us mere mortals continue to lose more of our privacy in the never ending war on drugs.

I think it's a bit bigger than wack-a-mole for sure. There's the politics and other stuff that comes with it like you already mentioned.

 

[StriderX]

There will always be a supply. Unless we go full Rodrigo Duterte.

I can guarantee that there are drugs in the Philippines and that lovely government is almost certainly a big buyer.

 

[Nasher]

I can guarantee that there are drugs in the Philippines and that lovely government is almost certainly a big buyer.

Duterte was part of a gang which hunted and killed drug dealers long before he was president, so I doubt anything is tolerated.

 

[jpaul]

this was worth listening too - same playbook by USA govt for spying on foreign governments, complete company product was a front.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000w499

For decades a Swiss-based company, Crypto AG, made the equipment that governments round the world bought to send secret messages - unaware it was owned by the US CIA and German BND

anon - Have they explained what encryption strategy/tools other more technically bent drug lords are using

 

[Werewolf]

Duterte was part of a gang which hunted and killed drug dealers long before he was president, so I doubt anything is tolerated.

You're assuming the the gang in question wasn't also dealing...

It's depressing how often such groups are mainly killing rival drug dealers (and anyone who crosses them by for example trying to speak out about it, or refusing to co-operate).

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

You mean 4chan.

In fact I think it was mooted <snip>

Please tell me this is intended really clever wording and not unintentionally really clever wording.

 

[Lysander]

Please tell me this is intended really clever wording and not unintentionally really clever wording.

Yes, it was intentional. Points 2u, glad someone picked up on it <party>

 

[jpaul]

are people using 4chan for, supposedly, secure communication - don't get the point ?.

looks like they/france are currently having problems witrh encrochat crack prosecutions .... which could apply to anom prosecutions too

https://www.computerweekly.com/news...hack-breaches-French-constitution-court-hears

Binsard said French investigators had failed to certify the authenticity of the messages harvested from EncroChat, in breach of French law.

“They did not certify anything,” he added. “We cannot trust their investigation without this certification. We think the interception operation is illegal and that is why they want to hide everything.”

By carrying out massive data collection involving tens of thousands of mobile phones and tens of millions of messages, the investigators went beyond the framework set by a judge at the Lille court, he said.

 

[Nasher]

You're assuming the the gang in question wasn't also dealing...

It's depressing how often such groups are mainly killing rival drug dealers (and anyone who crosses them by for example trying to speak out about it, or refusing to co-operate).

Nope, they just kill drug dealers. Its a vigilante group.

 

[PlacidCasual]

One day they'll kill the drug trade by immunising people against the high of drugs. I mean if there is no pleasure from heroin or weed why take it.

 

[jpaul]

you're making me wonder if obesity and the junk/processed food industry generates more revenue and misery than the drug industry
... albeit tha't arguably an addiction too.

 

[Junglist]

yet the drugs are still as available as ever, I guess we can't really talk about it on this family friendly forum though.

the media gives the impression they are winning, they aren't.

use tor and do your own investigation

What I've learned from my Tor experiences is that they are ruthlessly professional

 

[arknor]

What I've learned from my Tor experiences is that they are ruthlessly professional

Royal Mail is the biggest drugs courier in the country, they must literally have KG's going through most cities daily.
has the media ever tried to make a big deal out of it? seems like it's almost hidden knowledge

 

[Werewolf]

Royal Mail is the biggest drugs courier in the country, they must literally have KG's going through most cities daily.
has the media ever tried to make a big deal out of it? seems like it's almost hidden knowledge

Royal Mail actively tries to prevent that sort of use of their service (and the USPO inspectors in the states tend to take things more seriously in many cases than the FBI*, let alone local police).
It is also pretty much impossible for RM to actively check every single package thoroughly.

The difference tends to be services where they at least try and take action to prevent criminal use, and those where they actively try to make it hard for criminal usage to be detected.


*I've seen lawyers say they'd much rather face the FBI than the postal inspectors, and that in their experience the postal inspectors will take action where the FBI will shrug their shoulders in instances where the potential crimes overlap (and that whilst local police and FBI will often ignore things like threats to a person sent via mail, even when it crosses state lines the USPO are far more likely to investigate and prosecute)..

 

[Junglist]

Royal Mail is the biggest drugs courier in the country, they must literally have KG's going through most cities daily.
has the media ever tried to make a big deal out of it? seems like it's almost hidden knowledge

Tor-To-Door in 24.

I'm sure the media made a big deal about it once, that was how I found out!

 

[jpaul]

they are hardly going to announce if they have successfully planted back-doors on hardware of people using tor - the Israeli firms s/w penetrated Kashoggis phone,
issue is how they do this surreptitiously, so they don't reveal their hand eg. let's tell people it was Anon, but slip in a few prosecutions based on tor, better the devil you know,

the trusted security modules on Chinese originated phones, well anyones, can be back-doored; military dedicated hardware would obviously be a lot more resilient.

 

[jpaul]

..If you have a drug dealerproblem, if no one else can help, and if you ...

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