Switzerland becomes 7th European country to ban face coverings

robfosters · 7 Mar 2021 at 21:04

Switzerland today voted in a referendum to ban face coverings like the burqa and niqab in public.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56314173

They are now banned in France, Belgium, Netherlands, Hungary, Austria, Denmark and Switzerland.

I must say I am surprised by this. I was under the impression that Switzerland was one of the most tolerant countries in Europe. Obviously not.

Do you think they will be the last European country to ban them, or will there be more bans across Europe?

arknor · 7 Mar 2021 at 21:07

switzerland is very tolerant but they like to maintain their national identity , culture and beliefs

robfosters · 7 Mar 2021 at 21:15

arknor said:
switzerland is very tolerant but they like to maintain their national identity , culture and beliefs

So they’re quite nationalistic in attitude?

dowie · 7 Mar 2021 at 21:22

Surely there is an easy workaround here in that you can just wear Covid facemasks or neck gaiters etc... like at what point does a Covid face-covering become a religious one?

Quite cool for pro-privacy people too who dislike facial recognition - you're free to cover your face with a neck gaiter, bandanna, mask etc.. while at your, well covered with CCTV, local shopping mall, town centre etc.. or even walk into your local bank branch with your face covered.

robj20 · 7 Mar 2021 at 21:23

Should be banned everywhere.

ChroniC · 7 Mar 2021 at 21:40

I don't think it should be banned, if I want to walk around in a balaclava all day long then I should be allowed. What I think should be banned is the forced repressive use of a facemask by a group of people on females to signify authority / dominance based on historical fiction.
Is banning that the same as banning the device they use to achieve this?

robfosters · 7 Mar 2021 at 21:43

ChroniC said:
I don't think it should be banned, if I want to walk around in a balaclava all day long then I should be allowed. What I think should be banned is the forced repressive use of a facemask by a group of people on females to signify authority / dominance based on historical fiction.
Is banning that the same as banning the device they use to achieve this?

I often wonder how the Muslim men react to these bans. Some are so strict with their religion, that it simply cannot be allowed for their wives to go out without one.

If they’re illegal, does the Muslim man react by accepting it, or making his wife a prisoner in her own home?

That part worries me somewhat.

alchal · 7 Mar 2021 at 21:46

It's amazing how the far left are all Pro islam and also pro woman's rights yet they never seem to pick up on how women are treated like possessions and have to be completely obedient to their men under the guise of religion, baffles the grey matter.

arknor · 7 Mar 2021 at 21:46

robfosters said:
So they’re quite nationalistic in attitude?

whats wrong with wanting to keep your own culture and values?

look at what it takes to become a swiss citizen

Apart from integration being verified via the knowledge of a national language, general integration in the Swiss way of life, familiarisation with Swiss customs and traditions, conformance with the Swiss rule of law, and no endangering of Switzerland's internal or external security are aspects that authorities do consider when reviewing a request for naturalisation.

loads of Turkish people lived in the same quarter as I, it's not like the countries racist

robfosters · 7 Mar 2021 at 21:49

arknor said:
whats wrong with wanting to keep your own culture and values?

look at what it takes to become a swiss citizen

loads of Turkish people lived in the same quarter as I, it's not like the countries racist

I never said nationalism is racist. I’m a nationalist. But is an extremely small number of women wearing face coverings in observance of their religion really going to negatively affect the countries culture and values?

Hagar · 7 Mar 2021 at 22:38

robfosters said:
I never said nationalism is racist. I’m a nationalist. But is an extremely small number of women wearing face coverings in observance of their religion really going to negatively affect the countries culture and values?

In a country of banks...

...I'll leave the rest for your imagination to fill.

loftie · 7 Mar 2021 at 22:50

So does that mean they'll just wear Hijabs with a face mask?

Mr^B · 7 Mar 2021 at 22:53

Unfortunate poster campaign by the largest political party in Switzerland (in 2007 whilst I was working over there):

Mr Badger · 7 Mar 2021 at 22:56

Mr^B said:
Unfortunate poster campaign by the largest political party in Switzerland (in 2007 whilst I was working over there):

Looks like blatant sheepism.

robfosters · 7 Mar 2021 at 22:57

Bye bye black sheep

robgmun · 7 Mar 2021 at 23:15

robfosters said:
So they’re quite nationalistic in attitude?

B..B..But, nationalism is evil and racist isn't it? Socialists told us so!!

Hodders · 7 Mar 2021 at 23:27

robj20 said:
Should be banned everywhere.

Right, cos obviously the best way to free women to wear what they want is by telling them what they can and can't wear.

What about balaclavas, ski masks, face masks etc.?

It really is just right wing idiots (and the people that agree with then) making themselves look like intolerant imbeciles.

Sigh

arknor · 7 Mar 2021 at 23:34

its not to do with religion but violent protesters hiding their faces

i-bert · 7 Mar 2021 at 23:43

Hold my beer Tony, I got this...

RACISTS!!

Nasher · 7 Mar 2021 at 23:50

Christian men should be able to walk around in full Knights Templar garb.