Poll: Syrian Chemical Weapon Attack

Would you support a military strike on Syria without a UN Security Council resolution?

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I'm confident (and proud) that this potential peace* deal is only on the cards thanks to parliament's vote against military action by UK forces.

* It's not really a peace deal though as it leave Al-Assad free to go on slaughtering the rebels albeit without chemical weapons any more. If the Syrian rebels want to know why they lost this war I have two words for them - Al Queda.

Isaiah 17:1 - "The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap."
 
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Well if that is true about Obama and Putin coming to a compromise at the G20 summit, that is heartening news.

Always better when a diplomatic solution can be found.
 
scorza said:
I'm confident (and proud) that this potential peace* deal is only on the cards thanks to parliament's vote against military action by UK forces.

* It's not really a peace deal though as it leave Al-Assad free to go on slaughtering the rebels albeit without chemical weapons any more. If the Syrian rebels want to know why they lost this war I have two words for them - Al Queda.
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Yes I think since assad wont be able to use chemical weapons no more, the tide will turn :D:D Because clearly thats the only thing that he used to keep rebels at bay.
 
Lazder said:
just give up you fool, Assad did not use chemical weapons because its just dumb...

He was winning the war and knew exactly that if he used them he would be playing right into rebels hands and risk NATO intervention.

If he DID decide to use chemos it would be done as last resort when he would be losing the war and it would be done on massive scale and not some silly 1 bomb that covered a house. Chemical Weapons are weapons of mass destruction, nothing justifies using it on a small scale.

Common sense just completely fails, the only thing that might justify this apart from rebel provacation is a rogue drunk/drugged general.

Its much easier to napalm the whole damn area and leave no one alive than using stupid chemical weapons.
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I agree. It also look likes we have had lies and fakes over the chemical weapons.

UN rights council says Syria gas attack videos, photos fake.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/09/10/323066/un-says-syria-attack-videos-fake-russia/
 
Jono8 said:
Well if that is true about Obama and Putin coming to a compromise at the G20 summit, that is heartening news.

Always better when a diplomatic solution can be found.
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Maybe the US will finall allow Iran to be part of the peace process and a peace process can finally start.
 
scorza said:
The women and children didn't.
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I'm not defending Assad, I know he's killed and used a huge amount of force in public places, but to suggest his is the only responsible party in this civil war is silly and gets us nowhere. The rebels, even those without extremist links are also to blame for the loss of civilian life. During the early parts of the war when it was all over the news, it was very often the case that the rebels would open fire on the governments forces in very public locations.

The romantic idea that these rebels are freedom fighters is nothing but a fantasy and if you paid attention to non-BBC/Sky news sources, you will find a similar pattern over the last 2 years.
 
eggyoke said:
I'm not defending Assad, I know he's killed and used a huge amount of force in public places, but to suggest his is the only responsible party in this civil war is silly and gets us nowhere. The rebels, even those without extremist links are also to blame for the loss of civilian life. During the early parts of the war when it was all over the news, it was very often the case that the rebels would open fire on the governments forces in very public locations.

The romantic idea that these rebels are freedom fighters is nothing but a fantasy and if you paid attention to non-BBC/Sky news sources, you will find a similar pattern over the last 2 years.
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Those romantic "freedom fighters" massacred certain ethnic groups civilians in Syria...
 
scorza said:
The women and children didn't.
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Yea they didnt but it doesn't stop the terrorists(rebels)

A total of twelve Alawite villages were subjected to this horrendous attack. That was a true slaughterhouse. People were mutilated and beheaded. There is even a video that shows a girl being dismembered alive – alive! – by a frame saw. The final death toll exceeded 400, with 150 to 200 people taken hostage. Later some of the hostages were killed, their deaths filmed.
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http://rt.com/op-edge/mother-chemical-attack-footage-fraud-509/
 
Lazder said:
Those romantic "freedom fighters" massacred certain ethnic groups civilians in Syria...
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That's not all they did. They have repeatedly killed innocent people and made videos of the bodies in an attempt to blame Assad, some of which includes children.

The complete lack of BBC and Sky news coverage of it all really disturbs me. It's not just a few incidents, it's happening weekly all over Syria and nothing is said. Then when you find out where these rebels are getting their funding and ammunition from, it takes it to a whole new level of disturbing.
 
eggyoke said:
That's not all they did. They have repeatedly killed innocent people and made videos of the bodies in an attempt to blame Assad, some of which includes children.

The complete lack of BBC and Sky news coverage of it all really disturbs me. It's not just a few incidents, it's happening weekly all over Syria and nothing is said. Then when you find out where these rebels are getting their funding and ammunition from, it takes it to a whole new level of disturbing.
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Oh please, like the SAA and their militias are wandering around all innocent, the Shabiha militia are infamous for their massacres - only they are supported by heavy weaponry, planes, tanks and artillery. You dont seem to be that disturbed at Russia and Iran for enabling that. And if you're apportioning blame, who was it who started shooting on peaceful protests at the start? Assad. There might be nutters in the rebels, but the damage they can do is nothing compared to the SAA.

Both sides have a deal of blame in this war, but the whole thing is at a level of nastiness now that civilians don't count for squat. America, Russia, the UK, Everyone, seem more interested in playing politics than actually helping the people there. Im sure its going to come back and bite us in the ****.
 
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*** RED ALERT - HIGH PROBABILITY FALSE FLAG IMMINENT - RED ALERT ***

NUCLEAR FALSE FLAG HIGHLY LIKELY TOMORROW, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 11, 2013

9/11/13

9 + 11 + 13 = 33. A SACRED DAY FOR MASONIC NUMEROLOGY

ON WEDNESDAY, THE DAY OF MERCURY, THE GOD OF FINANCIAL GAIN, AND TRICKERY, AND THE LEADER OF SOULS TO THE UNDERWORLD.

THE GHOUTA CHEMICAL ATTACK IN SYRIA HAPPENED ON 8/21/13. 8 + 21 + 1 + 3 = 33. GREAT OMEN FOR AN ILLUMINATI FALSE FLAG, ALSO TAKING PLACE ON A WEDNESDAY OF COURSE.

YOU MAY NOT BELIEVE IN NUMEROLOGY, BUT BELIEVE ME, THEY DO!!!

BE SAFE
 
Devlish said:
Oh please, like the SAA and their militias are wandering around all innocent, the Shabiha militia are infamous for their massacres - only they are supported by heavy weaponry, planes, tanks and artillery. You dont seem to be that disturbed at Russia and Iran for enabling that. And if you're apportioning blame, who was it who started shooting on peaceful protests at the start? Assad. There might be nutters in the rebels, but the damage they can do is nothing compared to the SAA.

Both sides have a deal of blame in this war, but the whole thing is at a level of nastiness now that civilians don't count for squat. America, Russia, the UK, Everyone, seem more interested in playing politics than actually helping the people there. Im sure its going to come back and bite us in the ****.
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I'm not denying at all the brutality of the Assad government, as I have said before, I'm trying to bring a bit of perspective on the overall situation because no one ever seems to talk about the horrible brutality of large parts of the rebel movement that is now infested with radical opportunists. This isn't made up, it's fact and it's this reason I'm so shocked that our government and the US are so eager to help these "freedom fighters."

I completely 100% agree that the civilians are the ones that need our help, they're suffering from the brutality from both sides. I also want an end to this war, everyone does, it's horrible to see whats happening and I'm glad that we've taken a step back from pressing the war trigger and are focussing on the refugees. It's the "most" sensible thing to do in this horrible situation.

You appear to be of the opinion that military strikes will somehow alleviate the suffering of these people. Please explain to me why you think America bombing the infrastructure of the regime will in anyway at all help the situation and bring the war to an end? What other option do you have in mind, anything that doesn't involve dropping million dollar smart bombs on a sovereign nation?

Yes Russia are the big bad guys, they have their own agenda no doubt about it, but do you think it's unwise not to see what will come of this chemical weapon hand-over? To me its been the only sensible suggestion so far in this whole testosterone filled sham. The "international" community has finally made a move that has put the ball to Assad. It's his move now and we can finally see what he's made of, if those pretty letters he wrote can be backed up by worthwhile action.

Both sides are nasty, both sides don't deserve to govern the country but what other options is there? Look at what's happening right now in Egypt, look at Iraq and what western intervention has done for them. So again, please explain because I'm having a hard time seeing it and so are the rest of the people on the planet.
 
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eggyoke said:
Both sides are nasty, both sides don't deserve to govern the country but what other options is there? Look at what's happening right now in Egypt, look at Iraq and what western intervention has done for them. So again, please explain because I'm having a hard time seeing it and so are the rest of the people on the planet.
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You really have to look at it from the context of the last two years. Assad has been responsible for the vast majority of civilian deaths simply because that is his way of waging war, and his fathers before him - he loses a city and then uses the full might of his army and air force to try and degrade that city to the point his army can walk back in - basically shelling apartment blocks and shophouses with tanks and artillery and dropping fuel bombs indiscriminately. This is his one and only strategy for victory. Reduce everything to rubble and let the army take control. Chemical weapons were the next logical step. maybe the rebels would do this too *but they cant*. they dont have the weaponry.

An american military strike would swing the balance of power away from Assad. Thirty to sixty days of aircover, denying them their armor, artillery and airforce would allow the rebels to take Damascus and probably make the Assad government fall like a stack of cards. Numbers would actually mean something and on that front the rebels win hands down. Think about the alternative - Nothing happens and Assad continues with plan A, reducing everything to rubble. Which is better for the civilians? This sovereign nation is only still in power because of russian arms, Iranian military advisors and lebanese fighters. Sure the rebels have thousands of foreign fighters so soveriengty is not really an argument for either side, but the rebels have a majority of moderates who didnt start this rebellion to swap a dictator for extremists. They want peace, and probably democracy, but that really is up to them.

As to the dangers of intervention, there would be no boots on the ground, so you could rule out the Iraq scenario. In Egypt the military have removed an extremist government and are strangling another extremist government across the border in Gaza, so is that a bad thing? Also, where is this western domination? Seems to me that we always presume that everywhere must have 'democracy' like this will be the answer to everyones prayers. we were not responsible for the Arab Spring, we have just so far made it a loss less bloodier than it needed to be, especially in Libya.

We have not done that in Syria for 2 years and what have we got to show for it? A hundred thousand dead, and two million on the borders spreading out like a modern day exodus. Now theyre chucking around chemical weapons. How long before everyone starts using them and then theyre dropping on our guys in Afghanistan? Thinking this particular nightmare wont be visitied back on us in spades someday is to deny all the evidence of history.
 
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Efour said:
*** RED ALERT - HIGH PROBABILITY FALSE FLAG IMMINENT - RED ALERT ***

NUCLEAR FALSE FLAG HIGHLY LIKELY TOMORROW, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 11, 2013

9/11/13

9 + 11 + 13 = 33. A SACRED DAY FOR MASONIC NUMEROLOGY

ON WEDNESDAY, THE DAY OF MERCURY, THE GOD OF FINANCIAL GAIN, AND TRICKERY, AND THE LEADER OF SOULS TO THE UNDERWORLD.

THE GHOUTA CHEMICAL ATTACK IN SYRIA HAPPENED ON 8/21/13. 8 + 21 + 1 + 3 = 33. GREAT OMEN FOR AN ILLUMINATI FALSE FLAG, ALSO TAKING PLACE ON A WEDNESDAY OF COURSE.

YOU MAY NOT BELIEVE IN NUMEROLOGY, BUT BELIEVE ME, THEY DO!!!

BE SAFE
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What's worse is there will be people who will agree this post. Even worse, you may not even be joking. It's like a big conspiracy theorist circle-jerking haven.
 
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