Teacher Grooming using the belt?!

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I have to wonder why these women are like this. Are these women authentic pedophiles (I'm using the umbrella term to describe all ages)? Because with a man there can be different explanations of how he's ended up on a road of depravity. Sexual frustration due to a lack of opportunity being the main one. It is the founding negative emotion most incels build on. But women don't have the same problem. If a woman wanted sex she could get it.

That label was created by a woman about herself.
 
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When I was at School, most of my mates wanted to bang the Drama teacher who was short and in her early 30's :cry: :cry:

Oooooh the poor victims.... Riiiight :cry:
 
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When I was at School, most of my mates wanted to bang the Drama teacher who was short and in her early 30's :cry: :cry:

Oooooh the poor victims.... Riiiight :cry:

We had a biology teacher like that. She would always talk about her sex life whilst explaining how menstrual cycle works and how to get pregnant. Short skirts and had to sit on the worktops to open the windows in summer.
 
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That's a very easy statement to make.

Much more challenging to attempt explaining why it's not.

I guarantee if that was a male teacher porking underage boys the public disgust levels would be exceptional and being physically attractive would not dampen the vitriol.
It's interesting the attitude towards the teacher just because she bought a Gucci belt
 
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I have to wonder why these women are like this. Are these women authentic pedophiles (I'm using the umbrella term to describe all ages)? Because with a man there can be different explanations of how he's ended up on a road of depravity. Sexual frustration due to a lack of opportunity being the main one. It is the founding negative emotion most incels build on. But women don't have the same problem. If a woman wanted sex she could get it.
The way the stories are structured, it appears the kids primarily pursued her, rather than the other way around.
Regarding the 'women problem' you mention - I disagree. While women could get any old sex if they wanted, they often won't find the sex they want, as options will still be somewhat limited.
This one was lonely and distraught over her breakup, and presumably still wanting sex, and these kids were offering it. Makes me wonder who was grooming who from a technical perspective, rather than a legal one.

This woman and other female teachers mostly aren't bad looking. They are at least average with some rating noticeably good looking. Is it just a case of they fell for someone in their working environment rather than making the effort to go to a club, or are they really attracted to children?
Probably not attracted to children specifically, but vulnerable enough to be seduced by the attention of young, fit, horny lads.
There's also the age-old allure of forbidden love, and all that... see below.

If the latter I find it very disturbing, and is likely linked to the collapsing morals of society, were once things were considered forbidden now seem to be becoming acceptable in the mind of certain individuals.
They've long been acceptable in the minds of certain people. You have things like the Oedipus and Electra complexes, with all sorts between and around, culminating in Fauxcest, MILFs and the like catering to such niches and fetishes even on mainstream porn sites.
But then, taking a look at mainstream culture - Forget Stifler's mom... Here's to you Mrs. Robinson, and Stacy's Mom has got it goin' on.... It could be argued that society's morals are only just catching on to a very popular and lucrative market.
 
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The way the stories are structured, it appears the kids primarily pursued her, rather than the other way around.
Regarding the 'women problem' you mention - I disagree. While women could get any old sex if they wanted, they often won't find the sex they want, as options will still be somewhat limited.
This one was lonely and distraught over her breakup, and presumably still wanting sex, and these kids were offering it. Makes me wonder who was grooming who from a technical perspective, rather than a legal one.
There as always been lads or girls trying to seduce teachers. The theme was a lot more common in the past. Then abuse cases started to happen on a regular basis so that theme dropped out of the plots of adult movies.

You've not really argued against my statement. That women can get sex when they want. I agree they are more picky because they can get many different partners, likely easier these days.

As an anecdotal example I've had 2 female friends who when they wanted sex they got it. One used to go into the local town bars looking for the best male and would take him home to have sex with. The other one purposely picked a farmer up and stayed at his farm for the weekend. Never saw, or had any desire, to see him again.

For a man, if he doesn't fall into the classic physical attributes and/doesn't have the gift of gab even the most unattractive woman isn't going to be swayed by him for sex.*

Probably not attracted to children specifically, but vulnerable enough to be seduced by the attention of young, fit, horny lads.
There's also the age-old allure of forbidden love, and all that... see below.
This setup as happened since time began but not acted on. I suspect its more the corruption of the female mind with the abundance of porn sites.

Very few women and girls had any contact with porn material pre-2000. So they wouldn't be thinking of these porn-style scenarios.

They've long been acceptable in the minds of certain people. You have things like the Oedipus and Electra complexes, with all sorts between and around, culminating in Fauxcest, MILFs and the like catering to such niches and fetishes even on mainstream porn sites.
But then, taking a look at mainstream culture - Forget Stifler's mom... Here's to you Mrs. Robinson, and Stacy's Mom has got it goin' on.... It could be argued that society's morals are only just catching on to a very popular and lucrative market.
I've been a porn connasour for most of my life to the level that I could see when certain themes became popular in porn that it eventually had a real life influence and vice versa.

One thing I noticed that when countries that are extremely religious joined the Internet that certain smaller themes increased in popularity, particularly forbidden encounters.

Porn as become a poison online because of its abundance. When I was a young man we had to go searching for it specifically. These days people have to take actions to defend against seeing it.

*I'm not excusing deviant male because there is something wrong with a man who is thinking about sex 24/7. I'm just stating it is easier to see a downfall of depravity in men. It is also well documented in cases of illegal material that as the guy becomes more depraved until he warps his mind looking at abuse not thinking of the real world.
 
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When I was at School, most of my mates wanted to bang the Drama teacher who was short and in her early 30's :cry: :cry:

Oooooh the poor victims.... Riiiight :cry:
And the girls in my school had a crash on the salt and pepper hair physics teacher in his 30s.

We have to draw the line regardless of gender.
 
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I am really torn....
why is it that some how because it is teenage lads that a lot of people do seem to think it is less of a crime than had it of been teen girls? indeed it isnt even that long ago that legally it was considered different?.

if it was a female pupil who had seduced a male teacher people would have been more up in arms than they are about this imo.
The law has to be exactly the same and really the public backlash of people talking about it on forums (such as these) should be the same regardless of if male or female... and yet it isnt.... just look at some of the comments here. I doubt anyone would dare ask the question about whether it was the boy looking to take advantage of the teacher who was vulnerable coming out of a relationship had it of been an underage teenage girl coming onto a male!.

and yet all that said................................................ if i could have bagged my physics teacher Miss Brown when I was 14/15 i would have been all over it, and i can promise everyone here i would not be now feeling violated!.
 
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Males are just randy so they loved it.

Females are never promiscuous little harlots for some reason... apart from in that old film "rita, sue and bob too"
Both sexes enjoy the act as much as each other, in reality women aren't these little princesses with high morals.

The woman's a pure grooming paedophile yet I see panels on news websites trying to defend her like shes the victim of unwanted male attention....
Even buying gifts pure grooming.... no different to if I went up to some 15 year old girls in the street and started offering to be their friend and buy them gifts to win their trust.. then taking full advantage of them... oh look ones preggers but its fine...

accept it's worse because shes a teacher in a position of trust.
Should be treated with the same severity as if it were anyone else in a position of power like a policeman, or whatever
 
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You've not really argued against my statement. That women can get sex when they want. I agree they are more picky because they can get many different partners, likely easier these days.
By that same token, most men can get 'sex' when they want (and many more, if they actually try hard enough). But in both cases, it's often not what they would count as sex by their own personal standards. Such perspectives may differ between genders, adding to the perceived disparity. Men can be just as picky, in terms of the sex on offer being not what they want. If posters on here are to be believed, no-one really wants an OnlyFans girl...

As an anecdotal example I've had 2 female friends who when they wanted sex they got it. One used to go into the local town bars looking for the best male and would take him home to have sex with. The other one purposely picked a farmer up and stayed at his farm for the weekend. Never saw, or had any desire, to see him again.
Equally anecdotal, we used to watch girls like this doing the rounds at nightclubs and bars in London. We should have taken bets on which ones would be leaving alone.
If they appear too desperate, or are too far below the requirements of the general clientele, they just aren't winning regardless of how much having boobs should guarantee success.

For a man, if he doesn't fall into the classic physical attributes and/doesn't have the gift of gab even the most unattractive woman isn't going to be swayed by him for sex.*
Fortunately for many of those, financial and material attributes also play a factor, as do things like social status and occupational prestige. Hell, I've had girls suddenly flip from utterly ignorant of my existence, to eye-flutteringly swooning when they heard I am Scottish... and not only that, but an actual Highlander to boot. I don't (naturally) have an accent or anything, it was just someone else pointing out the fact.

This setup as happened since time began but not acted on. I suspect its more the corruption of the female mind with the abundance of porn sites.
Of course they would - The age of consent was still 16 in the 1950s and previously had been as young as 12. "Mother Nature's" age of consent would normally be shortly after puberty begins with things like bleeding, but the complexities of society has seen the age necessarily raised gradually over the centuries.
The problem is that some kids of school ages often exhibit the physical attributes that humans are wired to find attractive long before reaching the age of consent. The early bloomer types.
Ephebophilia (ages 15-19) and hebephilia (ages 11-14) have existed since Greek times (hence the Greek words for them) and have been common enough that they have their own terms for specific age brackets. The fantasies of an older lover have appealled to young people just as much as young and willing (and even inexperienced) lovers have appealled to older people, again for centuries... and transgressive fiction is almost as old as the written word. Many, such as Lolita, are regarded as classics.

The female and the male minds were already hideously corrupted.

Very few women and girls had any contact with porn material pre-2000. So they wouldn't be thinking of these porn-style scenarios.
As above, this sort of thing happened so often that in the 1800s they had to come up with several terms for the different scenarios.
'Porn' has been around as long as written words and cave sketches. The Maquis de Sade's works have been immensely popular with women, both contemporary and current. Jilly Cooper, the Black Lace novels and their ilk have similarly been popular for centuries. Women accessing 'modern' porn, with all its depravity and niche fetishes, and being the very target audiences of it has been the case ever since photography was invented.

I've been a porn connasour for most of my life to the level that I could see when certain themes became popular in porn that it eventually had a real life influence and vice versa.
Likewise, although my historical reading and research extends back to the fetish brothels of the 1300s, where pretty much any category of fetish you see listed on Pornhub was available for half a guinnea or so to the loose-pursed medieval individual, be they man or woman. The locations and proprietors were pretty well known, too. It wasn't the dark secret it became for us some time around the late 1800s, either.
If anything, we're going backward to times when it wasn't such a taboo.

One thing I noticed that when countries that are extremely religious joined the Internet that certain smaller themes increased in popularity, particularly forbidden encounters.
I'd argue that from a number of those countries also originated some of the historical classic erotica and sex manuals. They later went all religiously suppressed and are now reverting.

Porn as become a poison online because of its abundance. When I was a young man we had to go searching for it specifically. These days people have to take actions to defend against seeing it.
It's become less controlled and also harder to control, yes.
I'd argue that's nothing to do with the majority of porn itself, but more a failing of the adult world to keep it from their children. I mean, in the 70s and 80s it wasn't ever hard to go into a corner shop and buy a handful of jizz mags, and there were plenty of shop owners who were only delighted to sell them to kids still wearing school uniform. Same for videos, when they became a thing.
Heck, if you want to see Linda Lusardi's boobs, you had only to buy a flipping newspaper. Before that, it was the underwear section of Kays, Freemans, Littlewoods and other catalogues.

*I'm not excusing deviant male because there is something wrong with a man who is thinking about sex 24/7. I'm just stating it is easier to see a downfall of depravity in men. It is also well documented in cases of illegal material that as the guy becomes more depraved until he warps his mind looking at abuse not thinking of the real world.
Neither am I excusing the deviant female, although there are plenty of good reasons why so many have such 'depraved' inclinations... and many of them would appear to be justified, rather than actually depraved.
The only rule really is that it's OK so long as everyone's having fun and not hurting anyone, including yourself (unless it's consentual). The definitions of fun, hurt and consent are legally defined, so avoid crossing that line and there's no problem.

To state for the record, in this woman's specific case she was somewhat vulnerable and easily susceptible to males initiating relations. She fell victim to their advances.
HOWEVER: As the only responsible adult in the relationships, she still had the responsibility of not crossing that line. There are channels, procedures and support provisions she should have utilised to assist her out of the situation, instead of straddling atop it.
 
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