Teachers should be respected more by kids?

[RDM]

No lesson changeovers as I work in primary.

8.50-10.50 lessons
10.50-11.10 playtime
11.10-12.15 lessons
12.15-1.15 lunchtime
1.15-3.20 lessons
3.20 hometime

So you could be expecting a child to go over two hours without going to the toilet. Especially first period as they may have had a walk to school without an opportunity to go. They might be Y6 but they are still kids.

You also want every girl on her period to bring in a note from their parents? What justification is there for that invasion of privacy, especially as you are dealing with girls that may just be starting their period?

 

[peterwalkley]

This week I have been called a bitch, spat on and yesterday a girl told me she was on her "rag" when I wouldn't let her go to the toilet. This year 6

So what is the point of your post ? Are you just here to vent frustration - in which case why do you think a computer forum is even remotely suitable ?

If this is genuine, your school has a discipline problem. I have two daughters, one in Year 5 and the older one in Year 8. If either of them behaved like you describe I would be expecting the teachers to send them straight to the head for a telling off and would also expect that to be reported to me or my wife for a second bollocking. It is not acceptable behaviour. We may be very lucky where we are, but I can't imagine that happening with either class my girls are in.

 

[Misslauren]

As a parent I am not going to write a note to let teachers know my daughter is on her period. That is pretty much a private matter for her. In class I have no desire to ask a girl if she is on her period, as a teacher I have no need to know. Therefore if a student asks to go to the toilet I normally ask "Can you wait until break?" if they say no, then I let them go. If a child spat on me they would be out of the lesson very quickly and have at least a day at home and I would expect an apology before I let them in my class again.

They know my policy. If they need permission to go during lesson time being a letter. This letter does not have to state the reason just they would like their son/daughter to use the loo when needed.

 

[Martini1991]

Also, the "Why didn't you go to the toilet during your break" rhetoric doesn't hold water with me.

I could go from not needing the toilet, to busting in the space of about 20 minutes. Wouldn't have helped wanting to go before if I didn't need to.

 

[Freakbro]

Well would an adult sit happily and work for free 5 days a week because thats what we expect from schoolchildren.

No wonder they have attitutde.

Its teaching them how to be an obedient army.

The similarities between armies and schools is frightening.

you must do as your told and sometimes your opinion means nothing even if you are right
you all wear the same uniform
you all sit in lines like soldiers
you are forced to learn only one sylabus
you break times are determined by someone else
sometime you have no choice of food supplied
you dont follow the rules you are punished
you are being programmed to obey not to be educated

And you must do this for no money for about 10 years with no guarantee of anything when you are finished.

Thats slave labour.

I am no condoning bad behaviour but you will get bad behavior from being forced to do something

we need a rebellion...goodnight

Bueller....Bueller.....Bueller....?

Anyone.....Anyone...?

 

[Martini1991]

They know my policy. If they need permission to go during lesson time being a letter. This letter does not have to state the reason just they would like their son/daughter to use the loo when needed.

Going to the toilet when needed should just be a given.

I do completely understand the concern of classroom disruption, but at the end of the day, it's your job to have control of the classroom.

 

[RDM]

They know my policy. If they need permission to go during lesson time being a letter. This letter does not have to state the reason just they would like their son/daughter to use the loo when needed.

Regardless of your policy I believe it is an unwarranted invasion of privacy, so I can see why parents wouldn't be supportive of it. You are going to struggle to keep parents on side for the more serious things if you have already got their back up with something as trivial as a 10 or 11 year old child needing the loo.

 

[Misslauren]

So you could be expecting a child to go over two hours without going to the toilet. Especially first period as they may have had a walk to school without an opportunity to go. They might be Y6 but they are still kids.

You also want every girl on her period to bring in a note from their parents? What justification is there for that invasion of privacy, especially as you are dealing with girls that may just be starting their period?

They should go when they get to school if they need to,in preparation for the morning lessons

 

[Martini1991]

They should go when they get to school if they need to,in preparation for the morning lessons

I don't know about you, but my bladder doesn't run on a timer.

 

[RDM]

They should go when they get to school if they need to,in preparation for the morning lessons

They are kids, forward planning is not really one of their strong points. As both a parent and a teacher I think that your policy is too draconian.

 

[Misslauren]

They are kids, forward planning is not really one of their strong points. As both a parent and a teacher I think that your policy is too draconian.

Is it really too much to expect a child to go a couple of hours without a wee?

 

[Billy1280]

I must say that is it laughable to require a letter from parents to authorise their child to use the toilet..

Your policy is also ridiculous, it is unreasonable to expect a primary student to wait up to two hours to use the toilet. i understand making them wait 5 minutes while you are demonstrating or explaining something to the class, but the majority of the time it will cause no disruption whatsoever.

if this policy reflects your attitude towards your students on the whole, i'd have a hard time respecting you too.

 

[Josh]

Is it really too much to expect a child to go a couple of hours without a wee?

Yes they are children and haven't got the bladder control of an adult. If you still fail to see this I fear for the future generations of children you are "moulding".

 

[MatsyLR]

What a load of nonsense.
You can't control your bladder (go when you get to school, go during breaks etc BS).
I could go from not needing the loo to bursting in like 10min.
If you need to go you need to go. Yes sure I can hold it for awhile but its not comfortable and not something you should expect from a child.

I can't even remember anything of my "learning" in school all I remember is odd moments that happened. Was pointless my opinion, teaching us stuff we have no real need for instead of useful things that are needed for every day life....

Is it really too much to expect a child to go a couple of hours without a wee?

Yes it is. I'm a grown man and I can't control when I need the toilet and you expect a child too?

I wouldn't respect you at all if that's your attitude towards the children you are "moulding"

Also if a child is sitting there bursting for the loo they are going to be fidgeting and not concentrating on whatever nonsense is coming out of your mouth.

 

[LeeUK]

By time I left high school, lunch break had been whittled down from 1 hour earlier in my school career to just 30 minutes. How can that be healthy.

 

[Martini1991]

Is it really too much to expect a child to go a couple of hours without a wee?

I can't do that as a fully functioning adult. There's no need to hold it.

 

[RDM]

Is it really too much to expect a child to go a couple of hours without a wee?

Yes, because it is unnecessary. There should be opportunities for a child to go in those two hours that won't disrupt learning much at all. What do you think you are achieving by making them wait? Do you think you are teaching them self control or just teaching them to resent you?

 

[Misslauren]

Yes, because it is unnecessary. There should be opportunities for a child to go in those two hours that won't disrupt learning much at all. What do you think you are achieving by making them wait? Do you think you are teaching them self control or just teaching them to resent you?

That next time I better wee on my own time or Miss won't let me go and I will have to wait. They should go at break and if they forget tough.

We as teachers wait don't we? The children get enough breaks.

 

[Martini1991]

That next time I better wee on my own time or Miss won't let me go and I will have to wait. They should go at break and if they forget tough.

We as teachers wait don't we? The children get enough breaks.

Now this has got to be a troll.
You can't force yourself to go if you don't need to. You can within 10 minutes go from not needing the toilet to ready to burst.

I remember my teachers nipping to the loo.

 

[Josh]

With an attitude like that no wonder children don't respect you, I don't and I have the pleasure of never being in your company.