Team Group Dark Pro "8 Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black

Robert896r1 said:
Any chance you are working with them on doing this for the z390 boards?

As I said in my other thread, the z390 Aorus pro with WiFi won’t accept the XMP profile regardless of CPU clock or voltage. Also it’d be nice to have a list of boards esp for z390 that this mem has been tested with.

@GIGA-Man looping you in. In general, there seem to be a lot of ram issues on your boards as I research to find and find resolution. Here is the thread I made Incase your tech team would like to review. https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/8pack-memory-wont-run-at-xmp-profile-specs.18833954/
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@8pack any chance on doing something similar for x470 gigabyte ultra gaming for the 3200 14cl team dark kit, it refuses to run at 3200 without serious constant errors

@GIGA-Man is there any news on a bios update for gigabyte x470 to above agesa 1.0.0.4?for this same reason
 
Illuminist said:
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What voltage are you putting through the sticks ? im running them at 1.4v with SoC at 1.15v to keep it all stable with my 2700X at 4.2ghz 1.368v on an MSI X470 Gaming M7 AC, I did have them with XMP enabled, but MSI motherboards have this horrible bright red LED in-between the memory slots and the 24pin ATX connector to remind you you're running XMP, and as red isn't my scheme, I couldn't stand it, so I wrote all the timing down, including sub timings and disabled XMP then just dialled it all in manually.

ive had them as high as 1.45v @ 3600mhz CL16, but cinebench scores were only like 5 points up, it wasn't worth it, so dropped them back to 1.4v C14.
 
Jamin280672 said:
What voltage are you putting through the sticks ? im running them at 1.4v with SoC at 1.15v to keep it all stable with my 2700X at 4.2ghz 1.368v on an MSI X470 Gaming M7 AC, I did have them with XMP enabled, but MSI motherboards have this horrible bright red LED in-between the memory slots and the 24pin ATX connector to remind you you're running XMP, and as red isn't my scheme, I couldn't stand it, so I wrote all the timing down, including sub timings and disabled XMP then just dialled it all in manually.

ive had them as high as 1.45v @ 3600mhz CL16, but cinebench scores were only like 5 points up, it wasn't worth it, so dropped them back to 1.4v C14.
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On the gig x470 ultra gaming, I run at 3000mhz 1.4v cl14 with 1.15v soc. The cpu is at 4.2 with 1.35v.
Any less than 1.4 on the ram at 3000 and it will crash the system straight away, and nothing will make it run at 3200mhz, tried 1.45 and 1.5
Just wondered if there was anything I could do to get it running spec Tried ram calculator dialing it in manually, safe and fast settings same result instant memory errors . Need an agesa update for the bios or something, but I've been waiting months since agesa 1.0.0.4 for an update and nothing comes.

Any help or suggestions are welcome mr 8pack
 
Illuminist said:
On the gig x470 ultra gaming, I run at 3000mhz 1.4v cl14 with 1.15v soc. The cpu is at 4.2 with 1.35v.
Any less than 1.4 on the ram at 3000 and it will crash the system straight away, and nothing will make it run at 3200mhz, tried 1.45 and 1.5
Just wondered if there was anything I could do to get it running spec Tried ram calculator dialing it in manually, safe and fast settings same result instant memory errors . Need an agesa update for the bios or something, but I've been waiting months since agesa 1.0.0.4 for an update and nothing comes.

Any help or suggestions are welcome mr 8pack
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Im on AGESA 1.0.0.4 too, although im sure I spotted a new bios for another MSI motherboard a few days ago, but not been able to find it again since, over on the MSI forums, I just remember it being XXXXXXX.153 so hopefully there is something on the way soon.

Do you keep an eye on the Gigabyte forums, they sometimes post beta bioses on there: http://forum.gigabyte.us/board/37/am4

Sorry I couldnt be more help.
 
Illuminist said:
On the gig x470 ultra gaming, I run at 3000mhz 1.4v cl14 with 1.15v soc. The cpu is at 4.2 with 1.35v.
Any less than 1.4 on the ram at 3000 and it will crash the system straight away, and nothing will make it run at 3200mhz, tried 1.45 and 1.5
Just wondered if there was anything I could do to get it running spec Tried ram calculator dialing it in manually, safe and fast settings same result instant memory errors . Need an agesa update for the bios or something, but I've been waiting months since agesa 1.0.0.4 for an update and nothing comes.

Any help or suggestions are welcome mr 8pack
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Tuning SOC voltage is normally the key as well as procODT in order to both lower DRAM voltage and improve stability. It's been a few months since I've used X370 so the UEFI rules might be better now depending on the board.
 
Jamin280672 said:
Im on AGESA 1.0.0.4 too, although im sure I spotted a new bios for another MSI motherboard a few days ago, but not been able to find it again since, over on the MSI forums, I just remember it being XXXXXXX.153 so hopefully there is something on the way soon.

Do you keep an eye on the Gigabyte forums, they sometimes post beta bioses on there: http://forum.gigabyte.us/board/37/am4

Sorry I couldnt be more help.
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No worries, and thank you for replying to me, the gigabyte forum is no help at all, the 1.0.0.5 was promised to be released in July (this year) so not much hope for that.
I messaged gigabyte directly and was told that "3200 ram is supported on the x470 motherboard" which was the single greatest unhelpful thing i've heard...
I will just carry on checking gigabyte site for a bios update every single day like i do already until maybe one day they fix it so not just GSKILL is the only ram that runs properly on a x470 ryzen + ultragaming motherboard with 2700x platform

Thanks again 8pack
 
Any plans on doing a 2x16GB memory set? I'm really tempted to upgrade a bit more but the CPU-fan restricts the space over one of the RAM-positions on the motherboard hence I'm thinking of a 2x16GB set.
 
Has anyone used 'Team Group Xtreem " Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-32000C18 4000MHz Dual Channel Kit' with a Ryzen 2700x. I am currently running the ram in my 8700k intel system fine, but thinking of building a Ryzen setup.
Plan to run it in an Asus x470i Gaming itx board.
I don't know if the ram is single or dual rank and how much that matters.
 
pacegod said:
Has anyone used 'Team Group Xtreem " Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-32000C18 4000MHz Dual Channel Kit' with a Ryzen 2700x. I am currently running the ram in my 8700k intel system fine, but thinking of building a Ryzen setup.
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I run this ram in combination with Ryzen 2600x (no manual oc just PBO enabled) and an Asrock ITX x470 board without any issue at all. The board defaults to ddr2600 so no issues with booting with the loose memory timings. I can enable xmp and set 14-14-14-28 and run at ddr3200 changing no other settings without issue. 3600 works at default cas 18 timings. I haven't really tried to stabilise with anything lower. Setting ddr voltage to 1.40v and soc to 1.100 I do use the fast timings as given by ryzen dram calculator. My board only allows setting volts in increments of +0.05 so it might work with 1.37v on other boards. Probably not surprising that ddr4000 setting doesn't post at all ;)

tRFC seems to be the hardest setting to tune. Bringing this number down below 400 was causing me grief and is the main setting that required me to up the voltages to get the system even post.

 
I've been having issues with 2x8GB sticks with memory access violations 0x000005 and games crashing to desktop, but they are random when they occur.

I've reformatted, stressed test GPU and CPU on stock clocks to see if they were the problem but nope !

XMP profile is set at 3200Mhz with @ 1.35v

MCE is disabled and set VCCIO and VCCSA at 1.15 ish i've tried increasing slightly but still unstable.

Memtest86 passes however so i'm out of ideas

Oddly, with XMP disabled i don't have issues

CPU: 8700k
Mobo: ROG Strix Z370-I

I've done a bit of digging and noticed that Team Group's QVL for this ram on my mobo is 3000Mhz @ 16-18-18-38 ?

Annoyingly Asus haven't updated theirs in a while ?

https://www.teamgroupinc.com/en/catalog/act.php?act=1&index_id=183

If running at 3000mhz fixes my issues would i lose performance because of the higher timings ?

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated :)
 
nags92 said:
I've been having issues with 2x8GB sticks with memory access violations 0x000005 and games crashing to desktop, but they are random when they occur.

I've reformatted, stressed test GPU and CPU on stock clocks to see if they were the problem but nope !

XMP profile is set at 3200Mhz with @ 1.35v

MCE is disabled and set VCCIO and VCCSA at 1.15 ish i've tried increasing slightly but still unstable.

Memtest86 passes however so i'm out of ideas

Oddly, with XMP disabled i don't have issues

CPU: 8700k
Mobo: ROG Strix Z370-I

I've done a bit of digging and noticed that Team Group's QVL for this ram on my mobo is 3000Mhz @ 16-18-18-38 ?

Annoyingly Asus haven't updated theirs in a while ?

https://www.teamgroupinc.com/en/catalog/act.php?act=1&index_id=183

If running at 3000mhz fixes my issues would i lose performance because of the higher timings ?

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated :)
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Memory timings are a complex matter, in general and I mean general, if you divide the frequency by the CAS latency you get a good idea of performance. On Ryzen the sweetspot is 3200 CL14 as real world performance gains beyond this point are minimal. I have had to be careful as enabling DOCP (the equivalent of XMP) as the auto subtimings generated by the BIOS can be loose.
 
Okay so I suspected my GPU was the issue as games were crashing but guessing it may be the memory giving me issues, ran memtest and getting errors, also tried going up to 1.4V but similar results. Any suggestions on next steps?

(Also getting the occasional blue screen 'SYSTEM THREAD EXCEPTION NOT HANDLED / BAD POOL CALLER)
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Are the performance gains above the default 3200mhz cl14 worth overclocking this RAM? Ordered a set of 16gb yesterday to go with my 2700x and MSI X470 M7.

Will be used for day to day tasks and gaming
 
ToonarmY87 said:
Are the performance gains above the default 3200mhz cl14 worth overclocking this RAM? Ordered a set of 16gb yesterday to go with my 2700x and MSI X470 M7.

Will be used for day to day tasks and gaming
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Theres not much difference in overclocking this RAM, the stock 3200mhz CL14 is plenty fast enough, ive got mine at CL14 3400mhz 1.42v, the only difference I see is an extra 10 points in cinebench, (1906 upto 1917 points) anything above 3400mhz and you need to do things like enable gear down mode, power down, loosen the timings etc etc, and then its just slow, at 3533mhz my cinebench scores dropped right down to 1721 points.
 
Jamin280672 said:
Theres not much difference in overclocking this RAM, the stock 3200mhz CL14 is plenty fast enough, ive got mine at CL14 3400mhz 1.42v, the only difference I see is an extra 10 points in cinebench, (1906 upto 1917 points) anything above 3400mhz and you need to do things like enable gear down mode, power down, loosen the timings etc etc, and then its just slow, at 3533mhz my cinebench scores dropped right down to 1721 points.
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I settled on 12,12,12,32,46 at 3000mhz with my hardware (see sig) i think its pretty darn good that tight
 
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