Team Group Dark Pro "8 Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black

HRL · 19 Nov 2018 at 15:25

Illuminist said:
any chance on doing something similar for x470 gigabyte ultra gaming for the 3200 14cl team dark kit, it refuses to run at 3200 without serious constant errors.

Got the same motherboard, RAM and 2700X myself. The 3200CL14 RAM runs XMP out the box for me. In fact I can increase the clocks to 3266Mhz leaving the default XMP timings. Had it running at 3400Mhz with a little extra voltage but it wasn't completely stable and I really can't be arsed to faff about modifying the individual timings in an effort to glean a few extra Hz. Maybe one day when I'm bored.

Had my 2700X running at 4.2 all cores but TBH, benchmarks were coming back with higher results using XFR so I haven't bothered with that for now either. Only thing I can be bothered to OC at the moment is my 2080Ti.

Illuminist · 20 Nov 2018 at 12:09

HRL said:
Got the same motherboard, RAM and 2700X myself. The 3200CL14 RAM runs XMP out the box for me. In fact I can increase the clocks to 3266Mhz leaving the default XMP timings. Had it running at 3400Mhz with a little extra voltage but it wasn't completely stable and I really can't be arsed to faff about modifying the individual timings in an effort to glean a few extra Hz. Maybe one day when I'm bored.

Had my 2700X running at 4.2 all cores but TBH, benchmarks were coming back with higher results using XFR so I haven't bothered with that for now either. Only thing I can be bothered to OC at the moment is my 2080Ti.

That is strange, it will boot and appear fine in xmp 3200 but in running tests it produces errors would you be so kind as to show me the timings and volts it sets for it and I will try and replicate it.
If it doesn't work for me what do you think it's the issue ?

HRL · 20 Nov 2018 at 22:04

Illuminist said:
That is strange, it will boot and appear fine in xmp 3200 but in running tests it produces errors would you be so kind as to show me the timings and volts it sets for it and I will try and replicate it.
If it doesn't work for me what do you think it's the issue ?

Can take a BIOS photo if you need me to.

nags92 · 21 Nov 2018 at 19:24

nags92 said:
I've been having issues with 2x8GB sticks with memory access violations 0x000005 and games crashing to desktop, but they are random when they occur.

I've reformatted, stressed test GPU and CPU on stock clocks to see if they were the problem but nope !

XMP profile is set at 3200Mhz with @ 1.35v

MCE is disabled and set VCCIO and VCCSA at 1.15 ish i've tried increasing slightly but still unstable.

Memtest86 passes however so i'm out of ideas

Oddly, with XMP disabled i don't have issues

CPU: 8700k
Mobo: ROG Strix Z370-I

I've done a bit of digging and noticed that Team Group's QVL for this ram on my mobo is 3000Mhz @ 16-18-18-38 ?

Annoyingly Asus haven't updated theirs in a while ?

https://www.teamgroupinc.com/en/catalog/act.php?act=1&index_id=183

If running at 3000mhz fixes my issues would i lose performance because of the higher timings ?

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated

I've re-performed a memtest86, on the 4th loop i receive the error
"[Data Error] Test: 8, CPU: 6, Address: 1C93ECF70, Expected: 6A60511E, Actual: 6E60511E"

I repeated test 8 afterwards to double check for 10 loops and received the exact same issue.

Would this be considered big enough of an issue to RMA ?

I've had a few BSOD's recently to.

The only time i've had stability is letting my mobo run stock freq @ 2133

i just want a stable PC at 3200mhz

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Illuminist · 24 Nov 2018 at 18:11

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opethdisciple · 18 Dec 2018 at 00:37

Finally I have some good news.

Latest BIOS for my Prime Pro X370 has unlocked this ram and now it seems like it finally works as it should!!

DOCP works and I even pushed it to 3333MHz at 1.4v and it's not falling over during gaming.

I haven't stress tested it mind you but gaming so far is fine.

I assume it is OK to run these at 1.4v 24/7?

Illuminist · 18 Dec 2018 at 16:19

opethdisciple said:
Finally I have some good news.

Latest BIOS for my Prime Pro X370 has unlocked this ram and now it seems like it finally works as it should!!

DOCP works and I even pushed it to 3333MHz at 1.4v and it's not falling over during gaming.

I haven't stress tested it mind you but gaming so far is fine.

I assume it is OK to run these at 1.4v 24/7?

On the x470 Gigabyte Ultra Gaming with the new and latest bios for agesa 1.0.0.6 , did absolutely nothing to let me run this ram at 3200 at its rated timings, manual or DOCP , just produced memory errors just like before.....
Any suggestion ? should i try 1.4v ? or something else, kinda bored of wasting hours trying to get it there, tried ram calculator many times in the past with no luck
Its a shame because it runs great at 13.13.13 28 42 and even at 12.13.12.28.32 @ 1.37v - 3000mhz
But cannot and will not run at 3200

opethdisciple · 18 Dec 2018 at 16:52

Illuminist said:
On the x470 Gigabyte Ultra Gaming with the new and latest bios for agesa 1.0.0.6 , did absolutely nothing to let me run this ram at 3200 at its rated timings, manual or DOCP , just produced memory errors just like before.....
Any suggestion ? should i try 1.4v ? or something else, kinda bored of wasting hours trying to get it there, tried ram calculator many times in the past with no luck
Its a shame because it runs great at 13.13.13 28 42 and even at 12.13.12.28.32 @ 1.37v - 3000mhz
But cannot and will not run at 3200

Ignore me. I got excited and announced to the world all was fixed.

Unfortunately not. It is still freezing up at DOCP. So I have put it back to 3133MHz.

Illuminist · 18 Dec 2018 at 17:04

opethdisciple said:
Ignore me. I got excited and announced to the world all was fixed.

Unfortunately not. It is still freezing up at DOCP. So I have put it back to 3133MHz.

LOL - AMD sort your sheet out

Rob_brum · 25 Dec 2018 at 01:53

I've just installed this on a MSI gaming plus mobo, checking on CPU-Z (spd tab) it says max bandwidth DDR4-2400(1200 MHZ) and on the timings table for XMP-3200 its showing the frequency as 1600Mhz (which is what task manager is showing the speed as)
Have I missed something obvious to change?

freddie64 · 25 Dec 2018 at 07:39

Click on the Memory tab to see what the RAM is actually running at.
Also, don't forget to double what it says the frequency reports. (1600Mhz = 3200Mhz)

Merry Christmas.

Rob_brum · 25 Dec 2018 at 11:48

freddie64 said:
Click on the Memory tab to see what the RAM is actually running at.
Also, don't forget to double what it says the frequency reports. (1600Mhz = 3200Mhz)

Merry Christmas.

Thank you, I was confused as my CPU-Z setting look exactly the same as those in post 683 above, its just on my task manager shows 1600 and not 3200 (like the screen shot in post 683)

smogsy · 29 Dec 2018 at 14:09

i got some of 8 packs 3200 14-14-14-34? sticks 4x8GB is it woirth pushing higher frequencies?

currently got 2950X i would imagine it would improve perf quite considerable?

if so where what timings/speeds have people got working?

or is worth getting some 3600 from the shop?

Threepwood · 29 Dec 2018 at 17:24

smogsy said:
i got some of 8 packs 3200 14-14-14-34? sticks 4x8GB is it woirth pushing higher frequencies?

Try it and see?

biertonco · 30 Dec 2018 at 20:00

Thanks for the offer OCUK, have upgraded my 16gb of 2666 to a set of this RAM. Love the understated look and it's really interesting reading all the OC testing etc. on this thread

smogsy · 31 Dec 2018 at 08:39

Threepwood said:
Try it and see?

8 Pack said:
3200mhz can do c19-20-20 4k pretty easy around 1.45v on Intel platforms. But over 3600 c16 you only gain around 1% in most applications.

3866 c18 won't even be 1% gain. Work on cache OC instead for better efficiency and larger gains.

Well I tested 3200 for stability first. Its failing to 4 errors in under 200% most likely where my bf v instability is coming from

Its the 4x8gb kit 14-14-14-34
2950x Cpu stock and stock volts
Tried soc up to 1.1250
Both dram 1.40
Asus zenith extreme
Loaded both profiles both fail.

Any thoughts?.
Running at 3000nhz was ok up to 300%, testing BF V as thats where it was crashing every round. no issues after 2 rounds.

is it worth going lower CAS @ 3000mhz likely to more stable than trying to push for 3200?

smogsy · 31 Dec 2018 at 15:02

smogsy said:
Well I tested 3200 for stability first. Its failing to 4 errors in under 200% most likely where my bf v instability is coming from

appears to be error free at 13-13-13-34 3000Mhz up to 300% (stopped for some gaming)

kitfit1 · 31 Dec 2018 at 15:13

smogsy said:
Well I tested 3200 for stability first. Its failing to 4 errors in under 200% most likely where my bf v instability is coming from

Its the 4x8gb kit 14-14-14-34
2950x Cpu stock and stock volts
Tried soc up to 1.1250
Both dram 1.40
Asus zenith extreme
Loaded both profiles both fail.

Any thoughts?.
Running at 3000nhz was ok up to 300%, testing BF V as thats where it was crashing every round. no issues after 2 rounds.

is it worth going lower CAS @ 3000mhz likely to more stable than trying to push for 3200?

You are overvolting your ram and SOC so much, i'm amazed you could even get to 300%

Ram at 3200 should not need any more than 1.35v. The most important thing though is SOC, you should be set at around 0.9875v.
Overvolting ram and especially SOC is just asking for your memory to error.

DarkHorizon472 · 31 Dec 2018 at 15:16

smogsy said:
appears to be error free at 13-13-13-34 3000Mhz up to 300% (stopped for some gaming)

I found when I went from 16GB to 32GB of the same RAM in my machine I had to up Vcore slightly to be stable. That's with the same mild CPU overclock I have now, went from 1.2v to 1.25v. Until then BF1 would crash in about 30 mins max.

Hopefully you are OK now.