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gregster said:
No matter what you buy in electronics, generally there will be something round the corner. You can sit on the fence or you can buy...There is absoloutely no point in thinking 'what if I wait?' because if you do, you will never buy.

I brought a huge TV for a grand and then out comes these new fangled 'widescreen' TV's. A couple of years Later I spend another grand on a 'widescreen' TV, then out comes these new fangled 'flat screen' TV's etc etc etc.

Buy now and enjoy...who wants to live forever :)
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You brought a TV ?

Where did you bring it from
 
ALXAndy said:
June 09, people pay £400+ for a 480. Three months later* they're worth bugger all and Nvidia have replaced them with a cool, quiet and faster card for the same price.

*Just a quick estimate. It may have been longer but it was still an insult to 470/480 buyers.
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Not a very good estimate, given that it was over 7 months between the 480 and 580. A six month refresh cycle is nothing new.

Boomstick777 said:
GTX 480 really was well overpriced at around £430 at launch and only 5% faster the much cheaper and cooler and quieter HD 5870...
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Perhaps 5% on release day, it was still beating a card that had months of release driver optimisations while having to use very early drivers itself. It was easy to see that the 480 had plenty of potential and speed increases to come. Heck a 480 can still go head to head with everything barring the 79xx range of cards, can the same be said for the 5870?

I'd be interested to know how many people here bought a 58xx card and then upgraded to a 69xx series.
 
Even,after much newer drivers,the GTX480 was not massively faster than an HD5870:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_580/27.html

The drivers used for the GTX480 were released in July 19th 2010:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-258.96-whql-driver.html

Here is the original GTX480 review:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_480_Fermi/5.html

The drivers used were released at the end of March.

So after around three months and three weeks there was not a massive change in the relative performance of the two cards.

There is this review of the GTX570:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_570/27.html

The older cards such as the GTX480 used these drivers which were released on the 25th of October:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-260.99-whql-driver.html

After around 7 months,there seems to be hardly change in the relative positions.

The AMD cards were also reviewed with newer drivers too which also improved their performance. Basically,the GTX480 was between 10% to 15% faster than an HD5870 even around 7 months after launch,which is not that much different from the TPU launch figures.
 
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layte said:
Perhaps 5% on release day, it was still beating a card that had months of release driver optimisations while having to use very early drivers itself..
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That can be said of any GPU though, the HD 7970 for example now has far superior performance in BF3 than it did at launch. Since the BF3 patch and newer drivers..

The GTX 480 launch was an epic failure, overpriced, underwhelming.. It's only seen as an 'ok' option these days becausce you can pick them relatively cheap.. Although personally given the choice between a GTX 480 or spending similar money on a GTX 5XX card I would go for the newer gen, the power use/ amount of heat a GTX 480 gives out negates the slight performance advantage over a GTX 560 Ti for example. Id go for a GTX 560 Ti at £140 over the 480 anyday...

Been really dissapointed with Nvidia's high end recently, I really liked the GTX 570 had one for a while, I did get mine for £170 brand new though so it seemed good bang for buck, the 580 was and still is overpriced imho, the high price of the 580 is partly to blame for AMD's latest pricing on it's high end.. So much so that £400 for AMD's best looks good value compared to Nvidia's overpriced GTX 580...

I hope Nvidia can turn it around with Kepler, looks like AMD is ready to answer any high end Kepler card though... Maybe Nvidia can offer the best bang for buck card this gen? ..
 
Fact is the 480 is still comparable to cards currently on sale (570/69x0), can the same be said for the 5870? No.

People bleat endlessly about the price on release, but anyone who bought the 58x0 cards would have had to upgrade at least once if they wanted to keep playing games at high res with settings turned to maximum.

Yes I paid just shy of £900 for my cards back in April '10. But even now if I wanted to just match their performance with cards currently in production I would be looking at the sharp end of around £600.

Oh and slight performance difference between the 560ti and 480? http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/330?vs=309 (the 560ti was tested with MUCH newer drivers as well 285.62 vs. 262.99)
 
layte said:
I'd be interested to know how many people here bought a 58xx card and then upgraded to a 69xx series.
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Indeed. I stuck with my 5970, as even the 6990 was pretty underwhelming. The 6xxx series offered a very small improvement and only really got any traction once they discontinued the 5xxx series, which offered better value. The 7xxx is a huge jump but overpriced, which has diminished some of its appeal. Given that most sites are struggling to shift stock I would have thought AMD would have been better to offer much higher clocks - 1000-1100MHz - and storm the benchmarks. Even though the overclock headroom would have been smaller there would have been less criticism over the price and the reviews would have been glowing. It would have given them less room to launch a follow-up card but have allowed them to build a much bigger lead over nVidia in initial sales.

I'm sure AMD has a sound reason for the pricing they went for but I can't help feeling it was a missed opportunity.
 
I'm still clinging onto my 4850!

It's great watching the market evolve, I just hope kepler gets released sooner than later.

The lack of news/specs from Nvidia says a lot though as they are a very vocal company when they know they've got a winner.
 
I always get the feeling that AMD's high prices for the 7 series cards are to make up for the failure of it's bulldozer cpu launch. Maybe they're in trouble...?
 
Jay85 said:
I always get the feeling that AMD's high prices for the 7 series cards are to make up for the failure of it's bulldozer cpu launch. Maybe they're in trouble...?
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Everything else seems to be doing well and they have just bought another company.
 
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