Terminator: Dark Fate

Genisys had a plot point where a liquid metal terminator tried to kill Sarah Connor as a child. But that's the issue with time travel in movies, there can virtually be unlimited attempts. And why only send 1 terminator back if they've been so unsuccessful in the past, surely sending a half dozen or so is the obvious thing to do.
 
Gerard said:
Genisys had a plot point where a liquid metal terminator tried to kill Sarah Connor as a child. But that's the issue with time travel in movies, there can virtually be unlimited attempts. And why only send 1 terminator back if they've been so unsuccessful in the past, surely sending a half dozen or so is the obvious thing to do.
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In T3 the Terminator wasn't even going after John Connor, it was going after his future wife and fellow leader of the resistance. When he got injured and was treated by her at the vets the Terminator licked the bloody bandage and identified his DNA and an on screen message talked about primary target.
 
MissChief said:
In T3 the Terminator wasn't even going after John Connor, it was going after his future wife and fellow leader of the resistance. When he got injured and was treated by her at the vets the Terminator licked the bloody bandage and identified his DNA and an on screen message talked about primary target.
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Just seemed to be along the lines of "oh and if you happen to come by John Connor, plug him as well". :p Maybe at that point Skynet was getting bored with their inability to kill him so taking out his support base was more logical.

Really though these movies will never hold out to in-depth scrutiny, it'll always be a matter of "why this why that". In salvation for instance the t800 had grabbed Connor three times, but instead of just snapping his neck it decided to toss him around for a bit. Was only on the third attempt as the endoskeleton it was about to kill him before Marcus intervened.
 
I'm hopeful that this will be good but I do wish they'd stop making sequals using the original actors at pension age pretending they're still 30.
 
mmj_uk said:
I'm hopeful that this will be good but I do wish they'd stop making sequals using the original actors at pension age pretending they're still 30.
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Arnie looked not too bad in genisys with the digital de-aging technique for his 1984 scenes. Was pretty noticeable he looked much older in the 2017 scenes.
 
VincentHanna said:
They couldn't have afforded to do that in the whole movie, it's very time consuming (read: expensive) CGI
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Might not be used at all again in this depending on what year its set, which is currently an unknown. Done a good job of it though, seems de-aging someone is prone to far less scrutiny than a fully cg character.

According to wiki the same guy they used for the the young terminator in Genisys is again playing a part in this for the young Arnold. Though his role was basically removed from the final movie as (according to one of those vids above) the framing and lenses used weren't right so he was totally replaced with cg and only used as a guide.
 
Gerard said:
Really though these movies will never hold out to in-depth scrutiny, it'll always be a matter of "why this why that". In salvation for instance the t800 had grabbed Connor three times, but instead of just snapping his neck it decided to toss him around for a bit. Was only on the third attempt as the endoskeleton it was about to kill him before Marcus intervened.
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Indeed. Rather lame writing and directing to have the T-800 chuck Connor about, when it has already been set up in the first 2 films that terminators are cold calculated robots with no emotion. They exist to protect and serve Skynet, so chucking around Skynet's biggest thread just for the LOLs is not logical and doesn't fit. But that's to be expected when average at best writers and directors are hired.
 
Marsman said:
Indeed. Rather lame writing and directing to have the T-800 chuck Connor about, when it has already been set up in the first 2 films that terminators are cold calculated robots with no emotion. They exist to protect and serve Skynet, so chucking around Skynet's biggest thread just for the LOLs is not logical and doesn't fit. But that's to be expected when average at best writers and directors are hired.
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Salvation had a ton of stupid stuff in it, the large harvester bot somehow sneaking up-to a garage without being heard along with an aircraft to carry off the prisoners. Arniebot taking near point blank grenade shots to the chest and all it did was (conveniently) burn the flesh off, yet a few moments later its sending it flying 30 feet or more. Then the most glaring thing about the movie, it had barely any bloody terminators. I'm near sure the part where "arniebot" destroys the malfunctioning t600, that's the most human style terminators in one scene in the entire film, a massive TWO. :rolleyes::mad:
 
Gerard said:
Salvation had a ton of stupid stuff in it, the large harvester bot somehow sneaking up-to a garage without being heard along with an aircraft to carry off the prisoners. Arniebot taking near point blank grenade shots to the chest and all it did was (conveniently) burn the flesh off, yet a few moments later its sending it flying 30 feet or more. Then the most glaring thing about the movie, it had barely any bloody terminators. I'm near sure the part where "arniebot" destroys the malfunctioning t600, that's the most human style terminators in one scene in the entire film, a massive TWO. :rolleyes::mad:
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Right in the factor thats making them as well lol.
 
Gabbatek said:
I dont understand. 30 years after t2? What's going on? does that invalidate all the other films?
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You can just handwave and say that it's the original timeline, or that the events in subsequent movies have reset the timeline to where it's supposed to be, and the story continues after the events of T2. That's the great thing about the time travel mcguffin, is you can have as many do-overs as you like, throw away already seen storylines, come at it from any point before or after any film, etc. Just accept it and go with it. The timeline setting is the least thing to worry about, it's whether the film is any good that I care about. Just about anything after T2 has had big issues.
 
wolfie138 said:
there was no storyline after the events of T2, they'd accomplished their task and the war etc never happened.
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The "Sarah Conner Chronicles" series made a good attempt at explaining it as it continues from just after T2. Either from existing sleeper terminators sent to the past to continue working to create Skynet (ie Skynet ensuring that it comes into being no matter what), or the implication that Skynet or something like it will always appear as long as people keep working on Artificial Inteligence systems.
 
The problem with T3 and genisys is they were essentially remakes of T2 to a certain degree. Salvation was the only movie that stood out as being different in that respect but it seemed like skynet had determined that 1 T-600 per city was plenty to maintain the status quo..Salvation could have been decent but the whole movie just seemed like it was masses of empty spaces with barely anything to indicate what was going on.
 
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