Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins - Doomed for success?

Sort of relevant - Just caught the first episode of terminator series on virgin one tonight and thought it was excellent. Much more what I want to see in terminator than t3.

Of course it won't be t1/t2, those films are the definition of the genre and are amazing. However, the story is different to terminator coming back through time so with the difference in plot it may turn out good, has to be better than 3 anyway.

Roll on episode 2 though :D
 
The thing that will destroy this movie will be the crappy CGI.

Even though the CGI effects on Terminator 2 can be pulled off on your home computer these days, it still worked a hundred times better than that atrocity known as T3.
 
titaniumx3 said:
The thing that will destroy this movie will be the crappy CGI.
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No, what will destroy this is the one thing no-one seems to have mentioned: the fact that it will almost certainly have a terrible script. No matter how good the director and/or stars, if the script is poor, then so is the film. Which this will be: barrel-scraping at its worst.

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Meridian said:
No, what will destroy this is the one thing no-one seems to have mentioned: the fact that it will almost certainly have a terrible script. No matter how good the director and/or stars, if the script is poor, then so is the film. Which this will be: barrel-scraping at its worst.

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i hate to put myself up for serious ridicule normally, however I dont think Bale would be signing up to a film if it had a horrible script.
 
memphisto said:
i hate to put myself up for serious ridicule normally, however I dont think Bale would be signing up to a film if it had a horrible script.
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Even if you're right (and few Hollywood actors always make good films), that supposes that the script that gets filmed is the one he signed up to. And scripts can be altered massively during filming, let alone between getting the star on board and filming starting. Aliens 3 had something like thirteen script writers, and at least two complete re-writes.


Afterthought: Ewan MacGregor usually made good films - then he signed up Star Wars, because (essentially) he just fancied a bit a fun. And we all know how bad those are.




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Meridian said:
Afterthought: Ewan MacGregor usually made good films - then he signed up Star Wars, because (essentially) he just fancied a bit a fun. And we all know how bad those are.
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I really liked Ewan Macgregor in the Star Wars films. :(

And with regards to what you said about scripting, I feel that some of Christian Bale's films didn't have the strongest script, like Equilibrium or Reign of Fire, and made the films what they are. I have no doubt that I wouldn't have enjoyed either half as much if he didn't have the lead role.
 
naffa said:
I feel that some of Christian Bale's films didn't have the strongest script, like Equilibrium or Reign of Fire
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That's the politest way I've seen for some while to say that a film was rubbish. I'd forgotten about them: I tend to watch films because of who directed them, rather than who starred in them, so I couldn't remember more than a couple of films he had been in. They are excellent examples of a fairly good basic idea let down by a a terrible script, and immune to rescue by some reasonable acting from the star. Although I'll admit that I've only seen the first half of both, as both were so bad I turned them off.


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I wasn't saying that they were rubbish. I was saying that they would have been if Christian Bale hadn't starred in them, in my opinion.

Each to their own though obviously. :)
 
Looking forward to this a bit more now, the TV series is not bad, watchable but not as good as the big budget american dramas.

Personally, i really like the third film :confused:.
Just take it for what it is, and that is a very good action film! The crane chase scene is incredible, and the terminator fight in the skynet building is awesome, just smashing each other through walls.
I think people see it once, dissapointed after the fond memories of the second (which is a cracking film, not saying otherwise on that!) and then they just write it off from further viewings! Much like the matrix sequels, reloaded and revolutions are incredibly enjoyable and i much prefer them over the original after watching them several times.
 
I couldn't stand Reloaded and Revolutions - they were just a load of drawn out pap presented to viewers in the same way as a TV series. All that misdirection crap from "The Architect" reminds me of all the misdirection that occurs in every episode of Lost. All the while you've got Keanu saying vague one liners like "I know what I've got to do." leaving the audience thinking "care to share that with us then?"...

And let's not even get started on T3... :D That was just terrible. It would have been a better movie if they had removed that one scene where Arnie redoes the famous T2 bar scene... and comes out with the stupid glasses. That was a total Hollywood abomination IMO. The supporting actors, Stahl and Danes, didn't really fit into the movie. And the T-X was too pretty to be a Terminator. All in all, it stinks of a movie that "sold out" to appeal to everyone rather than keeping it dark and relatively gruesome with actors and costumes to suit.
 
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