That wouldn't work for a number of reasons:bottletop said:There would have been virtually no delays, only a small section of travellers would have been inconvenienced instead of everybody, and innocent muslim travelers would hopefully have realised that these problems stem from within their section of the community and it would be in their best interests to assist in stopping this sort of radicalism in future
bottletop said:It may seem racist (it's meant to be practical) but I can't understand why the powers that be didn't ban all people of "indian" appearance and all people with muslim names from flying for a few days.
There would have been virtually no delays, only a small section of travellers would have been inconvenienced instead of everybody, and innocent muslim travelers would hopefully have realised that these problems stem from within their section of the community and it would be in their best interests to assist in stopping this sort of radicalism in future
Al Vallario said:[*]Elaborating on the previous example, do you think it is the task of football fans to stop others from partaking in hooliganism? It is totally unacceptable to think that ordinary Muslims are responsible for what Muslim extremists do.
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Visage said:Not a bad idea. The obvious flaw is that not all muslims are dark skinned.
We could always get around that by forcing muslims (of any skin colour) to wear some kind of identifying emblem, such as a golden crescent at all times.
That would be an excellent solution. Perhaps even part of a wider final one.
Toryglen-boy said:i take it your trying to sound like a nazi to be sarcastic, right ?
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Airline plot was 'direct threat' to U.S. - White House - RTRS
10 August 2006 09:59:53 Originally published on:10 August 2006 09:51:47
WASHINGTON, Aug 10 (Reuters) - A foiled plot to blow up flights from Britain to America was a direct threat to the United States, White House spokesman Tony Snow said on Thursday
Toryglen-boy said:i take it your trying to sound like a nazi to be sarcastic, right ?
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Visage said:Who said anything about Nazis?
Al Vallario said:That wouldn't work for a number of reasons:
- There would be widespread public outrage, from both the Muslim community and others who are against institutional racism and segregation of society. It would be like the cartoon scandal all over again, except many times worse.
- You can't tar everyone with the same brush. Extremists such as those which carried out the 9/11 and 7/7 attacks are the minority, and despite what you hear in the press I have no doubt that 99.99999% of muslims don't want anything to do with them. To put things in context, do you think it would be acceptable to ban all English football fans from attending the World Cup because a handful of hooligans cause trouble? Do you really think people would just accept that and move on without causing a fuss?
- Elaborating on the previous example, do you think it is the task of football fans to stop others from partaking in hooliganism? It is totally unacceptable to think that ordinary Muslims are responsible for what Muslim extremists do.
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Personally I don't see what's wrong with these new airline security measures. In fact, I'm surprised the airlines haven't had these security measures in place for years (since the 9/11 attacks, for instance). Banning electrical key fobs and reading material (books, magazines etc.) sounds a bit over-the-top (although understandable) as a long-term solution, but otherwise I think the new measures are perfectly acceptable. Do you genuinely need more than the bare essentials (documents, wallet, money, keys, medicine etc.) to make it through a long-haul flight? Every long-haul flight I've been on has had in-flight entertainment (movies, personal music players or pre-set playlists etc.), and if it didn't I would just sleep through the flightToryglen-boy said:i fly out to Australia next weekend, i hope its all sorted by then!
no MP3 player on a 6hr then 13.5hr flight!
Visage said:Not a bad idea. The obvious flaw is that not all muslims are dark skinned.
We could always get around that by forcing muslims (of any skin colour) to wear some kind of identifying emblem, such as a golden crescent at all times.
That would be an excellent solution. Perhaps even part of a wider final one.
reflex said:Nobody said anything about Nazis really but assuming your being serious
"Marking muslims"
Is very similar to what Hitler and the Nazi's did.
Visage said:Really? Hitler and the Nazis marked Muslims?
I bet they didnt have any islamic terrorism then, did they?
bottletop said:lol. Rather than getting on your moral high horse with accusations of nazism, just ask whether it would keep the planes flying with the minimum of disruption for the absolute minimum of passengers?
'Raus!Visage said:Perhaps even part of a wider final one.
Al Vallario said:Personally I don't see what's wrong with these new airline security measures. In fact, I'm surprised the airlines haven't had these security measures in place for years (since the 9/11 attacks, for instance). Banning electrical key fobs and reading material (books, magazines etc.) sounds a bit over-the-top (although understandable) as a long-term solution, but otherwise I think the new measures are perfectly acceptable. Do you genuinely need more than the bare essentials (documents, wallet, money, keys, medicine etc.) to make it through a long-haul flight? Every long-haul flight I've been on has had in-flight entertainment (movies, personal music players or pre-set playlists etc.), and if it didn't I would just sleep through the flight![]()
Visage said:In the short term or long term?