Terror Plot Foiled

Updateomatic:

A UK security source said the attack could have been "days away".

And....

Bush is going to stand up and say something in about 35 mins.
 
bottletop said:
I would certainly have supported flying restrictions for holders of irish passports for a limited time....woudn't you?
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Well considering most of them were Northern Irish and British Passport holders it wouldn't have achieved much would it :rolleyes:

For well organised terrorist groups fake documents aren't really that much of a problem. On that subject I'll say no more though as it'll start the blinkered ID card Nazis going off on one!
 
bottletop said:
lol. lets leave the chilidish "moron" insults at school shall we?

I am not talking about banning an entire population from every location. Just a limited number of people from a specific location for a specific period of time

And in fact if there was such an occasion during the IRA troubles as a credible threat that irish nationals were threatening to bomb planes from british airports within the next 48 hours, then I would certainly have supported flying restrictions for holders of irish passports for a limited time....woudn't you? Would you really risk the lives of numerous innocent passengers simply to protect the rights of a few plane loads of disgruntled passengers from one particular country?
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No, no i wouldn't have let everyone fly apart from Irish people. Its about time you realised just because of you're appearance, it doesn't define who you are. And actually, you weren't talking about stopping people of a certain nationality flying, you were talking about people of an apperance flying. If so, i'm glad you'd see no white people would have flown if the IRA were blowing things up?

Even people like yourself must see that just because you black, brown, white, green, purple, blue doesn't mean you are the same as someone else who is the same colour as you.

P.s. while we're at it, lets stop black people flying, as EVERYONE knows they smuggle drugs :rolleyes:
 
bottletop said:
lol. lets leave the chilidish "moron" insults at school shall we?

I am not talking about banning an entire population from every location. Just a limited number of people from a specific location for a specific period of time

And in fact if there was such an occasion during the IRA troubles as a credible threat that irish nationals were threatening to bomb planes from british airports within the next 48 hours, then I would certainly have supported flying restrictions for holders of irish passports for a limited time....woudn't you? Would you really risk the lives of numerous innocent passengers simply to protect the rights of a few plane loads of disgruntled passengers from one particular country as opposed to disrupting the travel plans for tens of thousands of people worldwide
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I don't think you seem to understand the limitations of this. Followers of Islam and more specifically Islamic terrorists can be of any nationality, skin colour and background. If the authorities focus solely on a specific group of individuals, the terrorists will find someone from outside to perform their act. You are living in denial if you believe there are no White-converts to Islam who sympathise with this cause, no matter how small the number.

There is also the other problem that Heathrow is an International hub for air travel, so you would not be banning a small minority of people. It would be rather a lot of people.
 
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This looks like a really close call!

The police and secret service have done a great job in foiling these attacks! I look foreward to hearing the inside story in tomorrows newspaper.

After whats been happening in Lebanon and the Middle East recently I am not at all surprised that terrorists would attack our country. Especially because of our involvement in handling bombs going to Israel. I just hope that we resolve the ongoing problem in the Middle East by diplomacy.

I say we take advantage of cheap airline and travel stocks. They are sure to recover in the long run after taking a massive blow today.

Sorry i cant comment on whats been said earlier.

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Goldy said:
After whats been happening in Lebanon and the Middle East recently I am not at all surprised that terrorists would attack our country.
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This foiled attack could certainly be not linked or justified by this. It must have been in the making for months. I am sure they will find yet another excuse though.
 
Goldy said:
After whats been happening in Lebanon and the Middle East recently I am not at all surprised that terrorists would attack our country. Especially because of our involvement in handling bombs going to Israel. I just hope that we resolve the ongoing problem in the Middle East by diplomacy.

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That won't change anything these terrorists will never be happy.
 
I realise they won't ever be satisfied until their 'cause' is fully effected.

But you can understand that Britain and America have a higher priority to terrorists who are angered by what is happening in Lebanon. Right?
 
Dunno if anyone has asked this previously but:

What liquid explosive is good enough to blow up a plane in small quantities?
Surely it would require a detonator?

Ash
 
A5H said:
Dunno if anyone has asked this previously but:

What liquid explosive is good enough to blow up a plane in small quantities?
Surely it would require a detonator?

Ash
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I've heard talk of smuggling multiple parts of an explosive device on board (perhaps on multiple people; 21 arrested and "up to 6 planes" or "as many as 10 planes" being discussed) and constructing it on the plane. There are certainly substances out there which, when mixed, would be sufficient to cause an explosion capable of bring down an airliner.

Sky News are assuming that the detonations would take place over the Atlantic, but some American sources have mentioned cities being targetted (New York, Los Angeles etc.).
 
A5H said:
Dunno if anyone has asked this previously but:

What liquid explosive is good enough to blow up a plane in small quantities?
Surely it would require a detonator?

Ash
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Detonator - Easily hidden inside a mobile phone , MP3 Player or laptop

A 2 litre bottle of Coke - Would hold enough petrol/or similar to down a plane. Remember the attack was aimed at mid atlantic so any fire onboard would be disasterous with no emergency landing available.

Which is why all the above are banned.

Mark
 
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A5H said:
Dunno if anyone has asked this previously but:

What liquid explosive is good enough to blow up a plane in small quantities?
Surely it would require a detonator?

Ash
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If it were sufficiently powerful, and dissolved in something, then i suppose you could recrystallise out enough of it to be strong enough to put a very big hole in the plane. Not sure though - it's fairly chemically sophisticated to make it and then figure out how to get it past security.
 
mrdbristol said:
Detonator - Easily hidden inside a mobile phone , MP3 Player or laptop

A 2 litre bottle of Coke - Would hold enough petrol/os similar to down a plane.

Which is why all the above are banned.

Mark
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But coke is my favourite drink :(
 
A5H said:
Dunno if anyone has asked this previously but:

What liquid explosive is good enough to blow up a plane in small quantities?
Surely it would require a detonator?

Ash
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Which is why they've banned hand luggage -there was talk on the BBC this morning that the devices would have required some "assembly" before they could be set off - apparently a mixing of different chemicals in order to activate them, and then boom. The russians developed explosives in a liquid form that worked on this basis.

Anyway you wouldn't need a massive explosive - tear a hole in the side of an airliner at 30,000 feet and explosive decompression would take care of the rest :(
 
Al Vallario said:
As it stands no bottled liquids whatsoever are being allowed on board, with the exception of baby's milk which must be tasted by the passenger beforehand.
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What about a clear bottle of water?

Sure would be silly to stop people taking a bottle of water onboard wouldnt it.
 
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