Terror Plot Foiled
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But not allways Aloha Airlines Flight 243 if flight controls etc survive so might the planeVIRII said:
Wiki entryAloha Airlines Flight 243
Edit: Also United Airlines Flight 811
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VIRII said:
And it's hardly necessary for the constant meddling of Britain and the USA in the affairs of foreign states (not just Islamic ones), is it? Why the hell do you think the extremist muslims took a sudden liking to attacking our nation. Do you think maybe that ever since the end of WW2 when we created Israel* we have constantly been screwing them over and making money off them?
Methinks "YES" is the answer to that one.
*NB that wasn't anti-Semitic, I like Israel, they gave us Dothan and Banias
Sumanji said:And it's hardly necessary for the constant meddling of Britain and the USA in the affairs of foreign states (not just Islamic ones), is it? Why the hell do you think the extremist muslims took a sudden liking to attacking our nation. Do you think maybe that ever since WW2 when we created Israel* we have constantly been screwing them over and making money off them?
Methinks "YES" is the answer to that one.
*NB that wasn't anti-Semitic, I like Israel, they gave us Dothan and Banias
I see. So because in your opinion the UK has "meddled" in other countries it makes it ok to bomb us? However there is no justification for a person to feel unsafe when sat near a muslim with a backpack.......
Once again it appears that we can justify the actions of islamic terrorists or try to understand them, however, if anyone should then start to become suspicious of muslims then that is just not fair?
Sleepy said:
Yet I quoted something along the lines of that they should not be imprisoned until they had been through a trial.
I have not suggested executing them on suspicion.
I would support arrest on suspicion and very close monitoring as well.
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So let them detonate explosives on planes... then arrest them? Things may work that way with petty crimes such as theft and assault, but terrorism is a different matter. I for one am glad that the police have the ability to detain suspects and charge them with conspiring to commit terrorist acts.Sleepy said:
Granted this can lead to innocent people being detained, but I'm sure the intelligence services have an awful lot of information on these individuals who have been arrested today, and they pose a big enough threat to society that it's best to keep them under lock-and-key before their trial.
VIRII said:
Err, where exactly did I say that? Oh, right I didn't, so don't put words in my mouth, I have plenty of my own. You seem to be taking the role of innocent victim quite comfortably here. In your opinion do you feel that the USA and UK have done nothing to bring hatred and rage against it's people? That is very foolish and/or ignorant if so.
You or I could never understand what drives these madman to hurt us and the freedoms and liberties we enjoy, but quite frankly I find it offensive that you seem to be implying I sympathise for their "cause".
Again, go back and read what I said
I am strongly FOR racial profiling in this scenario, but angry and frustrated that I myself will be bagged in to this category by ignorant people that associate brown with Islamic extremism.Amateur dramatics.
VIRII brought up a point from a lot of pages back in this thread. I don't have a problem with the police et al dealing with suspects but a poster was arguing for their summary execution on police suspicion only with which I do have problems with.Al Vallario said:
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=1078
Thoughts?
Edit: As I have said before, I think it is unworkable.
Thoughts?
Edit: As I have said before, I think it is unworkable.
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sphen said:
great idea..... and very true.... If English footballl fans can be stopped traveling, then so can muslims.....
would be preferable if we got rid of most of them tho....ANY with a criminal record should disapear back to the stone age country they came from (even if they are 2nd/3rd generation...) I dont care, they dont care about being British so we shouldnt care about them
Oh look the BNP trying to put out a fire with petrol. Of course a trivial problem is how do you know someones muslim, so you can ban them from flying, oh great and wise BNP? Do they all have an identifying feature? Or is it just that they don't like brown people and managed to get brown confused with muslim.sphen said:
Of course if the reports from Sky are correct then there "solution" is even more futile than normal, but then since when does a BNP solution ever provide a real workable answer?
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Jeez the BNP have really outdone themselves in spectacular fashion this time.
I think you'll find the equivalent measure would be to stop ALL football fans from travelling because a minority are hooligans.
Bunch of n00bs.
I think you'll find the equivalent measure would be to stop ALL football fans from travelling because a minority are hooligans.
Bunch of n00bs.
That'll be you putting words into my mouth thenSumanji said:
Where did I say you sympathised then? You do seem to be saying that we deserve to be bombed though. If not then whats with all the "meddling in ouither countries" garbage? Are these bombers from other countries? No? They're born and bred HERE? So what has "meddling" overseas got to do with them then?Sumanji said:
Are you offering "reasons" as to why people are trying to bomb and kill UK citizens? If you are then surely you can't be foolish enough to think that it won't provoke a backlash against people who fit the profile of those who bomb us?
You suggest that our foreign policy is bringing muslims extremeists to attack us. I would suggest that if you can understand that then you must also be able to understand how muslim extremeists are going to bring attacks upon muslims.
Sumanji said:Again, go back and read what I said
If you are so strongly for it then stop bleating about how it will affect you and shut up
Exactly who should we assocate with Islamic terrorism? White old ladies? Don't think so. Muslims .... seems likely. Pakistani muslim males born and bred here ..... why not?Sumanji said:
Indeed nothing but whining under the pretext of being in favour of logical approaches to weeding out the most likely candidates of islamic extremism in the UK.
Sleepy said:
Indeed I was playing catchup as I was away from 11ish this morning. However the post I quoted had nothing to do with executing anyone, instead it was about not jailing anyone until after the trial.
Personally I prefer the security forces to err on the side of caution and to arrest and incarcerate people who they strongly suspect of ill doing pending charging and a bail hearing.
Oh dear VIRII you do seem to be in a muddle. Sumanji is angry at the Muslims who are involved in terrorist activites because of the knock-on effect it has on him as a fellow brown-skinner. Methinks your vitriol is misdirected in this case....