Soldato
Dont play victim if you are an advocate then
Please show me where I played the victim? I asked some specification questions as the information is usually out there and surprise, surprise someone was able to give me some good answers.
Dont play victim if you are an advocate then
They will get what they ordered or what they ordered with additional or better stuff. No one is going to be worse off. Continuous improvement is a much better model. The only potential loss is residual value can be more difficult to manage when variables are unknown.
My last Model S I bought just before they upgraded the MCU and it screwed me in terms of resale value.
"No one is going to be worse off"
"it screwed me"
I can see upsides to it but I don't think the 'legacy' behaviour of defining things more rigidly is without merit - you know when updates are coming, you can understand your risks around MY changes and when to anticipate change that may impact your spec or value.
In the case of the post above, I don't know how comfortable i'd be in the situation of not knowing which battery i'll be getting and whether I might end up with the 'inferior' spec that's subsequently worth less when it's superseded within a couple of months. Admittedly not so much a worry for lease/PCPers etc. You also don't get the flexibility at purchase to negotiate with a dealer to get a better deal on a lower grade outgoing spec, so no opportunity to work it to your advantage as with a legacy manufacturer, making it somewhat less of an issue.
"No one is going to be worse off"
"it screwed me"
I can see upsides to it but I don't think the 'legacy' behaviour of defining things more rigidly is without merit - you know when updates are coming, you can understand your risks around MY changes and when to anticipate change that may impact your spec or value.
In the case of the post above, I don't know how comfortable i'd be in the situation of not knowing which battery i'll be getting and whether I might end up with the 'inferior' spec that's subsequently worth less when it's superseded within a couple of months. Admittedly not so much a worry for lease/PCPers etc. You also don't get the flexibility at purchase to negotiate with a dealer to get a better deal on a lower grade outgoing spec, so no opportunity to work it to your advantage as with a legacy manufacturer, making it somewhat less of an issue.
or, jump ship ? Look in other countries where Y is released as an indication of suv competitors strengths desirability/residuals
- ID4 (can be awd & adaptive, quiter) doing well in Norway
The BEV registration results already in our database (year-to-date):
- Tesla Model 3 - 1,968 (12,058 YTD)
- Volkswagen ID.4 - 718 (8,645 YTD)
- Tesla Model Y - 2,379 (8,267 YTD)
- Ford Mustang Mach-E - 319 (6,160 YTD)
- Audi e-tron - 324 (5,745 YTD)
I may be a fanboy but that aside for Model 3, Model X and Model Y, none of them have anything that I would call true competition when you weigh everything up. Do some alternatives do some things better? Sure, but as a package for the price, nothing comes near. The Model S (out of what is available to buy today) is the only model with true competitors.
You have contradicted yourself there. If an alternative does some things better then by definition if you prioritise those "things", then for the price, the alternative is better than the Model Y.
I had a Q4 on NHS Fleet Solution order... or so I thought, but it turned out there was a mess up by the lease company. So I was back in the market and looked at cars that could be delivered in reasonable time frames.
Model Y
I-Pace HSE EV 400
EV 6
My wife and I decided that the Model Y looked nice from the exterior but the interior was far too minimalistic for our liking. Also found the drive to be quite fidgity and less refined than both the EV6 and I-Pace. The wind noise in the Model Y was also noticeably louder, but not that it was unacceptable, just definately not as quiet as the I-Pace.
In the end the I-Pace interior and more premium feel, as well as the more refined and comfortable ride quality made the choice for us. I do not like the fact it is very inefficient but 180 miles in Winter and 230 summer will suit us just fine. Really when it comes down to it none of these cars were a bad choice and it is a case of win some lose some with none being outright winners in all areas.
Good luck getting 180 miles in winter. The i-pace is a great car no doubt, but the range is pretty lean to say the least.
I think he meant you might get one things or two that are better on other cars, but as a whole package the Model Y wins out, in his opinion. At least that is how I read it.
There is a world outside the U.K. too where they don’t have such incentives like 1% BIK and government grants.I noticed that the iPace wasn't even in the top 10 BEV's sold in 2021 in the UK, but they I also noticed Jaaag had only sold 18k cars in the UK in total for 2021, the Model 3 alone sold nearly double that, pretty crazy really all things conisdered.