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Testing the NVIDIA GTX 970 with IC DIAMOND

I took part in the original giveaway test with IC Diamond and Perhelion on here a couple of years ago and even back then there were loads of complaints of it scratching surfaces. Under my blocks I had little to no improvement in temps (1 degree improvement on the cpu and zero on the gpu) over MX-2 and Perhelion was worse performing. There were several people in that test that had similar experiences.

98 tests were run by participants I may have missed one on reviewing 516 posts but there do not appear to be a load of complaints (if any) as you suggest.






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Upon reviewing those tests you were in the outlier category which in a treatment of the data you would remove 10% best and worst performing data points from either end of the spectrum.

What was notable about the exercise was that a cluster of the low end outliers were (marked in red) were water blocks against an average improvement of 3.43C in this exercise

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This low performing cluster was of interest to us so we had FrostDragon perform an investigation/analysis of the pressure and contact relating to WB with the following conclusion below.




In any case we are close to 1,000 public end user tests at this point and have spent time analyzing user results of when it works and when it doesn’t.

In the final analysis you end up with what experienced overclockers already know and is the first and most recommended solution on the forums and that is of course

  1. Amount of compound
  2. Pressure
  3. Contact

As a general rule 85% get a positive result with IC Diamond out of the gate, the remaining few percent from sample Contact and Pressure tests from endusers indicate you need approximately 60% contact and 45-60 psi for more optimal results otherwise you get get a heat dam effect.


Contact And Force Charts - In the two charts below from selected test data from endusers you will note that when contact area increases temperatures drop and when force increases temperatures also drop, the two parameters are inextricably linked to performance.


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Compound is a simple mechanical process a little contact and a little pressure solves most problems.

Higher heat densities will provide higher deltas on temps as noted with the Notebook and GPU vs CPU

From most recent OCUK giveaway


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I love IC-Diamond as I bought it a little over a month ago for my CPU, Temps dropped by a few degrees so I'm very happy.

I was planning on doing my GPU but the only thing is that like another poster even though I replaced the cap it seems to of gone rock solid and will not come out of the tube no matter how much pushing I do, I've tried putting it into a zip lock bag and resting it in warm-hot water to soften it but nothing works :(
 
I love IC-Diamond as I bought it a little over a month ago for my CPU, Temps dropped by a few degrees so I'm very happy.

I was planning on doing my GPU but the only thing is that like another poster even though I replaced the cap it seems to of gone rock solid and will not come out of the tube no matter how much pushing I do, I've tried putting it into a zip lock bag and resting it in warm-hot water to soften it but nothing works :(

No problem I'll have FrostDragon contact you and we will replace the tube 2X -

you will have to return the sample for analysis.

I keep samples from all bi annual batches labelled in a box going back 7 years and all are as fresh as first processed without any separation having just checked.

We contract the mixing in a clean room environment so would be surprised as the only hardening of the compound could come from specific industrial cleaning agents in our experience. analysis would be interesting.
 
So in other words the marketing ploy that other TIm manufacturers like to inform us that all Compounds perform only one degree of each other ,so what is the point etc etc. Well given the evidence shown above this is CLEARLY NOT the case at all!


Ok imo you are reaching a bit there. Most TIMs are close to each other. However... ICD is not most TIM but an engineered TIM much like other extreme TIMs like CLU and Indigo.
 
No problem I'll have FrostDragon contact you and we will replace the tube 2X -

you will have to return the sample for analysis.

I keep samples from all bi annual batches labelled in a box going back 7 years and all are as fresh as first processed without any separation having just checked.

We contract the mixing in a clean room environment so would be surprised as the only hardening of the compound could come from specific industrial cleaning agents in our experience. analysis would be interesting.

That would be great thank you :)

I'm guessing it's a blockage, Maybe there's a clump that formed and it's blocking the nozzle as It came out perfectly last month when I used it on my 4790K :)
 
on a gpu? no (its utter rubbish,far too thin)

on a cpu? hell yeah

Worked perfectly on my previous 780 Ti's (ran them for months with liquid pro) with reference heatsinks and current 980's with the aftermarket Gigabyte G1 heatsink.

Testing both 980's individually in a 20c ambient, one GPU idles at 26c, the other 28c, at full load running Unigine Heaven both GPU's individually never break 70c, and stick to around 65c. This is with a boost clock of 1380Mhz on one, and 1367Mhz on another.

8hrs of Call of duty Advanced Warfare and both 980's (in a closed case, single slot spacing between the two) never dropped below there 1367Mhz boost clock while the temp on the bottom GPU averaged around 58c, and 68c on the top one in a 22c ambient.

When I have checked to see how the contact is with the GPU and heatsink with liquid pro, it has perfectly even contact.
 
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I've actually wanted to re-paste my GPU for ages as I've never been too happy with my Windforce 780ti temps, but I've never been sure on exactly which paste to use. Will definitely give this a try soon and post the results in here if the post is still here when I get around to ordering some ;)

Thanks a lot for the reviews!
 
Does anyone know if Zotac permit removal of stock HSF? For warranty purposes?

Would like to reduce the temps on my 980 by replacing the tim but dont want to mess my the warranty on my £430 card
 
Should I send you my address or do you need to wait for authorisation from your higher ups ?

Heheh had to smile at that one

Please send me your address via trust message.

In addition we are ONLY sending small tubes out for those hwom are testing on GRAPHICS CARDS /LAPTOPS OR MOBOS only. The reason is that we have all our data on desktop cpu's already:D
 
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