That moment when you clock the van...

A 996 turbo will hit 113mph very quickly, and also stop very quickly from that speed. Ironically it would have been an uneventful pass had the camera van not been there.

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Exactly what I was thinking. You only need brush the throttle to hit 113mph in a 911 Turbo, infact it takes more effort to perform an overtake and NOT breach 100 in one of those I would imagine.
 
Lincolnshire has a population of ~700,000 which obviously includes OAPs, kids and other non drivers so 45,000 speeders caught seems like a very high number.

theres a lot of niceish roads to drive up in the wolds, and I'd say a large proportion of the speeders will be bikers up round Cadwell. It's a shame the majority of Lincolnshire is flat as a pancake.
 
Seems a perfectly reasonable overtake to me.

113mph mere feet from what are various obviously novice other road users and relatively vulnerable if a collision with those speeds did occur? yeah very reasonable. But I'm guessing you said that to get a reaction.
 
113mph mere feet from what are various obviously novice other road users and relatively vulnerable if a collision with those speeds did occur? yeah very reasonable. But I'm guessing you said that to get a reaction.

He kept a good distance between him and the riders, dry (warm?) roads, and if you watch his speeds, he decelerated rapidly to what appeared to be NSL speed limits even before stamping on the brakes.

Textbook overtake had the van not been there. To those bleating on about the top speed, have you ever driven anything remotely powerful? I can guarantee the same overtake in a Focus 1.6 at legal speeds would have been a hell of a lot more dangerous.
 
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He kept a good distance between him and the riders, dry (warm?) roads, and if you watch his speeds, he decelerated rapidly to what appeared to be NSL speed limits even before stamping on the brakes.

Textbook overtake had the van not been there. To those bleating on about the top speed, have you ever driven anything remotely powerful? I can guarantee the same overtake in a Focus 1.6 at legal speeds would have been a hell of a lot more dangerous.

And if he had not have spotted the Police vehicle, I suspect the 'overtake' would have continued for longer than it did. ;)

His foot was down, the 'plan' was to overtake as much as he could - then he saw the van.
 
Overtakes wouldn't be possible if speed limits were observed while on the wrong side of the road.

If I'm going past anyone against (possible) oncoming traffic it's as fast as possible.
 
I'd love to know how many accidents are caused by cameras doing exactly this which otherwise wouldn't have happened had drivers not had the need to emergency brake to avoid getting caught :(
 
And if he had not have spotted the Police vehicle, I suspect the 'overtake' would have continued for longer than it did. ;)

His foot was down, the 'plan' was to overtake as much as he could - then he saw the van.

Rubbish - watch his speed. He was decelerating long before locking up the brakes.
 
He kept a good distance between him and the riders, dry (warm?) roads, and if you watch his speeds, he decelerated rapidly to what appeared to be NSL speed limits even before stamping on the brakes.

At no point was there room for him to keep a good distance for those speeds between himself and the riders, granted even at "normal" overtaking speeds if one had done something dumb and pulled out infront it wouldn't have ended well either but 113mph reduces the chances even further.
 
At no point was there room for him to keep a good distance for those speeds between himself and the riders, granted even at "normal" overtaking speeds if one had done something dumb and pulled out infront it wouldn't have ended well either but 113mph reduces the chances even further.

So should all overtakes require a 3 mile stretch of open, flat road or should all roads be dual carriageway?

Either say overtakes are illegal on single carriageways or expect people to look in their mirrors before pulling out.

and 113mph isn't fast, he was holding back for the benefit of the riders.
 
So should all overtakes require a 3 mile stretch of open, flat road or should all roads be dual carriageway?

Either say overtakes are illegal on single carriageways or expect people to look in their mirrors before pulling out.

and 113mph isn't fast, he was holding back for the benefit of the riders.

Agreed, just damn unlucky.
 
Unlucky. He's pulled out to overtake foot down to pull in and then stopped accelerating after the last bike. This to me is th safest way to overtake.

I guess we don't know the full details though as that is a long line of bikes !
 
So should all overtakes require a 3 mile stretch of open, flat road or should all roads be dual carriageway?

Either say overtakes are illegal on single carriageways or expect people to look in their mirrors before pulling out.

and 113mph isn't fast, he was holding back for the benefit of the riders.

Or deal with the realities that its not practical to build roads like that, that people do make mistakes or are just stupid and overtake at speeds that give a better margin to deal with the unexpected and a better chance of a less lethal outcome. I can't see any situation where hitting in excess of 100mph in order to complete an overtaking maneuver is anything but reckless on your average UK road.
 
Or deal with the realities that its not practical to build roads like that, that people do make mistakes or are just stupid and overtake at speeds that give a better margin to deal with the unexpected and a better chance of a less lethal outcome. I can't see any situation where hitting in excess of 100mph in order to complete an overtaking maneuver is anything but reckless on your average UK road.

You're absolutely wrong and show an obvious lack of experience behind the wheel of something with a bit of power.

The faster he is travelling in this circumstance, the less time he spends next to the riders, the less time he spends on the wrong side of the road with other cars heading his way....I can't actually see what is wrong with the overtake in the slightest! Good visibility, good weather conditions, nice long straight, and until the braking due to the camera van, the car was far more composed than your average PoS car travelling at 60.

If he'd done the same overtake in a 1.6 focus, he would've crawled past, meaning he's next to the bikes for an eternity, so when a car coming the other way is going quicker than he realised he'll probably take the safer (for him) choice of diving into the pack of bikes rather than having a head on (well....one possible scenario :p)
 
Personally I like to spend the least amount of time on the wrong side of the road as possible. Most of the time this means just putting up with the slow speed of the driver ahead but if I think it's safe to do so and visibility is good, I'll floor it to get past.

The presence of the camera made that Porsche overtake look more dramatic and dangerous than it really was imo.
 
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