*** The 2019 Gym Rats Thread ***

dirtychinchilla said:
Horrible isn't it. I've just been looking at this article to add some stuff to my workout which will mean that when I finally get back to deadlifting, my lower back will be in much better shape. I'm going to attempt a couple of pullups, though I'm sure I can only do one. And I think I might add the standing T-bar row as I already do bent rows, as well as single arm dumbell rows.
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yea, I'd only just got back in to lifting for just over 2 months as I have severe golfers elbow and torn that again... I think I will just try and do some core work, rolling and mobility until im good again. All I needed after finally hitting a new PB on squats. It does feel like a trapped nerve, so hopefully it gets untrapped or I will be out for awhile haha.
 
why do people scream about squats more than deadlifts?

I hate squats, but i do them because someone said i should do them and every program seems to favour squats more than deadlifts. I love deadlifts.

why is that? why is the squat a much more focused lift than deadlift?

I would have thought the deadlift used more muscles whilst training grip etc and in my case im loading my body with a higher weight than I would with squats.

so what makes the squat better than the deadlift? give me your wisdom before i sack squats off and just alternate between sumo and conventional deadlifts 3 times a week.
 
Pushing's harder than Pulling,
So people train the Push more to strengthen it.
Also Squat hits the quads more than the deadlift. Both are part of a balanced workout, rather than one being superior to the other
 
I (mostly) enjoy squats but find deadlifts a bit more daunting and have had more failures. May be because with SL I do squats twice as often so more used to them. I feel I understand form better with squat I guess.
 
I can understand training them equally both once a week or twice a week, however like stronglifts and a lot of other programs the volume of squats far out weights the volume of deadlifts.

squats absolutely wipe me out and i get horrendous Doms deadlifts on the other hand i feel like a spring chicken.

I just want a reason to deadlift more than squat but I know it'll never happen :D
 
I hate deadlifts way way more than squats. Haha.

I haven't been able to do squats for a couple of weeks as the racks have been in use (been leg pressing) but I've tried to use advice on here. My movement is a bit jerky and the bottom of the squat. Is this a flexibility thing? Anything I can do to fix this?

 
dirtychinchilla said:
I think deadlifts are much more easily overtrained to the point where there's no benefit to doing them, as well.

I can't deadlift so I talk about squats :p
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Overtrained? Not convinced that is possible tbh.

Squats and deads both have a place and are essential in my opinion for big mass across multiple muscle groups.

Squats are much more challenging, at least for me.
 
ShortWarning said:
I hate deadlifts way way more than squats. Haha.

I haven't been able to do squats for a couple of weeks as the racks have been in use (been leg pressing) but I've tried to use advice on here. My movement is a bit jerky and the bottom of the squat. Is this a flexibility thing? Anything I can do to fix this?
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It looks like you're rocking onto your toes a bit much, not keeping your weight in the heel,
Also you're staring straight ahead, which means as you go down you're curving your spine to keep your head up.
Try looking at a point 5 feet infront of you and keeping your head neutral, let your bum go back a touch more to keep the weight back
 
CaptainRAVE said:
Overtrained? Not convinced that is possible tbh.

Squats and deads both have a place and are essential in my opinion for big mass across multiple muscle groups.

Squats are much more challenging, at least for me.
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I think I used the wrong terminology as I can't remember the correct one. I think the deadlift has diminishing returns when you train it multiple times a week (just parroting what I saw in a Jeff Nippard video)
 
dirtychinchilla said:
I think I used the wrong terminology as I can't remember the correct one. I think the deadlift has diminishing returns when you train it multiple times a week (just parroting what I saw in a Jeff Nippard video)
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Oh yeah, one big session a week is enough for most people. Plus most people will drop their form with more sets and reps increasing the chance of injury.
 
ShortWarning said:
I hate deadlifts way way more than squats. Haha.

I haven't been able to do squats for a couple of weeks as the racks have been in use (been leg pressing) but I've tried to use advice on here. My movement is a bit jerky and the bottom of the squat. Is this a flexibility thing? Anything I can do to fix this?

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Widen your stance and keep your toes at five to one (on the clock).

Take a video from behind (yeah, baby) and slow the whole movement down... ;)
 
dirtychinchilla said:
I think I might actually give deadlifts a go today, with the belt though. Hopefully it'll limit my potential for lifting with my upper body only.
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Whilst there are different schools of thought around this, I would suggest using a belt - if you're not confident on your form - is not a good idea. Have you tried Romanian deadlifts?
 
mrthingyx said:
Whilst there are different schools of thought around this, I would suggest using a belt - if you're not confident on your form - is not a good idea. Have you tried Romanian deadlifts?
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Would or wouldn't? I'm not confident in any way, shape, or form. I'm just worried about my lower back.

I've not tried Romanian deadlifts. They put less pressure on the lower back? I was thinking I'd just deadilft with low weights until I feel comfortable with the form.
 
dirtychinchilla said:
Would or wouldn't? I'm not confident in any way, shape, or form. I'm just worried about my lower back.

I've not tried Romanian deadlifts. They put less pressure on the lower back? I was thinking I'd just deadilft with low weights until I feel comfortable with the form.
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Just don't do them with a belt. ;)

The reason your lower back is hurting is probably because you're using it to lift, rather than your glutes: doing Romanian deadlifts is a good way of teaching you to lift with the bits that matter, rather than your back.

Also, some cues to remember:
  • Big chest when you lift (shoulders go back and down)
  • Imagine trying to point your bum at the ceiling as you lift...
See how this goes...
 
mrthingyx said:
Just don't do them with a belt. ;)

The reason your lower back is hurting is probably because you're using it to lift, rather than your glutes: doing Romanian deadlifts is a good way of teaching you to lift with the bits that matter, rather than your back.

Also, some cues to remember:
  • Big chest when you lift (shoulders go back and down)
  • Imagine trying to point your bum at the ceiling as you lift...
See how this goes...
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Hmm ok. So I took a bit of your advice - did 5x5 of 50 kg deadlifts, and inbetween did 2 sets of Romanian deadlifts. All seemed ok to be fair. I did it without a belt too.

Watch this space!
 
dirtychinchilla said:
Hmm ok. So I took a bit of your advice - did 5x5 of 50 kg deadlifts, and inbetween did 2 sets of Romanian deadlifts. All seemed ok to be fair. I did it without a belt too.

Watch this space!
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Good stuff. I agree with @mrthingyx’s advice. RDLs are generally better at the end of your sets, but they are great at training the final part of the lift - just focus as much as you can on good form and the rest will come.

Took me years to learn good form and to naturally do it. Deadlifts came more quickly. I am still very conscious of my squat form. When I started both lifts I spent a good six months only focusing on form - nothing else. It is why the girls are so good at these - they take ego and therefore too much weight out of the equation.
 
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