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Had my first session in 4 months last night. Was pleasantly surprised at how little strength I'd actually lost, especially considering how out of shape I've let myself get in lockdown. Didn't push it too hard which I'm very thankful for today as the DOMS is real...

Didn't realise how much I'd actually missed it until I got in there.
 
Well, just did 20 minutes walk. Also I am around 105KG. So I try to keep my protein intake around 200 Grams per day. And try to eat small meals every 3 hours.

That is normal I guess from what I read, or am I doing anything wrong.
 
Well, just did 20 minutes walk. Also I am around 105KG. So I try to keep my protein intake around 200 Grams per day. And try to eat small meals every 3 hours.

That is normal I guess from what I read, or am I doing anything wrong.

If you aren't tracking you calories then you're doing something wrong.

The small meals thing is preference.

To use myself as an example, I'm trying to lose about 8kg over the course of 105 days.
I do 1 small (snack), 1 medium (lunch) and 1 large meal each day to get my calories to average out at 3400 over the course of weeks.

Originally that started out as 3600 calories but the rate of loss was too slow.
I like to eat so I didn't want to restrict myself much further so I lowered it by another 200 calories and added in the walking.

Over the last 12 days my weight loss has been on target. I'll continue to track it and make small adjustments as time goes on :)

Tracking calories is annoying in the beginning but put in that effort and you'll reap the results.
The equation never changes; calories in vs calories out.
 
I'll try it, but sometimes a bit difficult as I dont measure the amount of porridge I put in bowl. And when the wife makes say chicken biryani or lamb curry its hard to accurately measure the calories.
 
I'll try it, but sometimes a bit difficult as I dont measure the amount of porridge I put in bowl. And when the wife makes say chicken biryani or lamb curry its hard to accurately measure the calories.

The reality is if you want to lose weight consistently then you have to track or understand nutrition in vs effort out.

This means extra effort.

You either want to lose weight and put the work in or you dont.

My fitness pal is good for food tracking, I used to use this a lot, but I dont bother now.

As for home made meals you can track / add ingredients to make your own meals, then measure portion sizes etc. Its a pain to start but gets easier over time once you have your own recipes added etc.
 
You don’t need to eat small meals every 3 hours: use personal preference + what is most convenient/practical as your main decision-makers for how often and when you eat (this assumes calories are matched), as especially for fat loss meal frequency/timing isn’t that important outside of sports-specific contexts like intense 2-a-day training, a lot endurance work, etc.

If you don’t want to track intake then tbh I don’t think it’s an issue if the goal is just to get to an average body fat level. If you’re eating sufficient protein and training hard then it’s difficult to lose anything but fat even with larger deficits. The closer you get to 6 pack lean and beyond though, the more a greater degree of accuracy becomes important - which something like tracking helps provide - but you just need to get in the ballpark for now and can use scales to track rate of loss.

That said, there’s still an element of picking your poison, so if you don’t want to track intake and your wife makes big dinners, then this may mean having to reduce portion size or removing certain things you eat elsewhere in the day to compensate and be on the safe side, e.g. sticking mainly to protein + fibrous veggies/salad the rest of the day if dinner is a calorie bomb (which things like curries usually are - anything involving ghee is a nightmare).
 
You don’t need to eat small meals every 3 hours: use personal preference + what is most convenient/practical as your main decision-makers for how often and when you eat (this assumes calories are matched), as especially for fat loss meal frequency/timing isn’t that important outside of sports-specific contexts like intense 2-a-day training, a lot endurance work, etc.

If you don’t want to track intake then tbh I don’t think it’s an issue if the goal is just to get to an average body fat level. If you’re eating sufficient protein and training hard then it’s difficult to lose anything but fat even with larger deficits. The closer you get to 6 pack lean and beyond though, the more a greater degree of accuracy becomes important - which something like tracking helps provide - but you just need to get in the ballpark for now and can use scales to track rate of loss.

That said, there’s still an element of picking your poison, so if you don’t want to track intake and your wife makes big dinners, then this may mean having to reduce portion size or removing certain things you eat elsewhere in the day to compensate and be on the safe side, e.g. sticking mainly to protein + fibrous veggies/salad the rest of the day if dinner is a calorie bomb (which things like curries usually are - anything involving ghee is a nightmare).

Ok, I thought had to eat 20g protein every 3 hours due to muscles needing protein every 3 hours? I do keep a mental track of what I eat and I am cutting down, have lost 2 pounds since last week.

Usually its like this:

If no gym then straight to breakfast, if gym then pre workout with water and after workout water with protein shake.

Breakfast: 3 eggs. Small bit of porridge. If I havent worked out then I just mix my porride with half arla skyr yogurt so more protein.

1PM: Tuna baguette from greggs or protein shake water and protein bar

4PM: protein shake water and protein bar

7PM: Dinner depends on what missus cooks, usually high protein meat or chicken. I sometimes top up with protein bar if I feel not enough protein content

10-11PM: protein shake milk.
 
Ok, I thought had to eat 20g protein every 3 hours due to muscles needing protein every 3 hours? I do keep a mental track of what I eat and I am cutting down, have lost 2 pounds since last week.

Usually its like this:

If no gym then straight to breakfast, if gym then pre workout with water and after workout water with protein shake.

Breakfast: 3 eggs. Small bit of porridge. If I havent worked out then I just mix my porride with half arla skyr yogurt so more protein.

1PM: Tuna baguette from greggs or protein shake water and protein bar

4PM: protein shake water and protein bar

7PM: Dinner depends on what missus cooks, usually high protein meat or chicken. I sometimes top up with protein bar if I feel not enough protein content

10-11PM: protein shake milk.

Looks pretty clean to me. Just keep building your muscle and gym lifts, add a few walks in and the weight will come off - and you know what, if it doesn’t, at least you’ll be a fair bit healthier. It’s a game of patience and consistency in my experience.
 
Finally deadlifting over 220kg again. Slowly coming back to me. Looking at the frustrating changes in work at the start of September it’ll push my numbers way up :D

Nice, what's your height and weight and how long did it take you to get to 220kg.
 
Nice, what's your height and weight and how long did it take you to get to 220kg.

Currently about 86kg body weight, down from 88kg pre-lockdown and 90kg at the start of the year. I think I’m close to 5’10. Took me about 3 years having started at about a 90kg deadlift max - I always record all my numbers and it’s really interesting looking back through them. I’m a good bit off my deadlift max, but I’m a bit lighter too and I’m not pushing as hard at the moment, so I’m happy where I am.
 
Nice, I don't know what my max is yet. For the 4 months I was doing it at home I had max 75kg weight.

Today's session I did 95kg x8 twice. 7 reps last set. I will keep adding 5kg every week.

Weight 105 kg. Height 6 2/3
 
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Ok, I thought had to eat 20g protein every 3 hours due to muscles needing protein every 3 hours? I do keep a mental track of what I eat and I am cutting down, have lost 2 pounds since last week.

There’s two different things to talk about

1) It’s a bit more technical than this, but the basic mechanism is that when you ingest protein it starts off something called muscle protein synthesis (MPS), which is the whole growth/repair thing. In an ideal world, you want to maximise the amount of MPS per protein feeding, so you’ll get the biggest anabolic response; this is usually around 20-25g+ protein per meal/snack for most to hit that threshold, depending on how big you are. How much of a % of difference slightly more or less makes is up for debate, but it’s not hard to do this given 20g isn’t a huge amount (e.g. your typical shake is 20-25g, as is 100g of uncooked chicken).

If you have more, MPS isn’t elevated further because you’ve already maxed out the response. The extra protein isn’t wasted, because protein is used by the body for lots of things other than just muscle (especially during a diet), but it means less opportunity to trigger MPS later on. If you have less then it means you still trigger MPS but don’t maximise it. This elevation of MPS lasts for around 3-4 hours - the refractory period - which means any protein consumed before that won’t re-elevate MPS (again, not wasting the protein).

What this all translates to is a simple rule: divide your protein up into 4-6 feedings per day (preference/practicality/how many cals you have to play with), whether that’s as part of a meal or just a shake + snack. This is best practice for the purpose of muscle gain according to the body of evidence.

Now if you’re dieting, then outside of a couple of scenarios (new to lifting, coming back from a layoff, have a highish body fat) you won’t build much muscle due to the calorie deficit. Building muscle in an expensive process for the body, losing fat isn’t. For this reason, stimulating MPS as often as is possible becomes less as important because the overall environment isn’t as anabolic. The main thing is simply to eat enough protein to maintain positive nitrogen balance (a fancy way of saying you aren’t going catabolic) each day.

This leads to...

2) As far as avoiding muscle loss during a diet, over 24 hours your overall protein intake is by far the most important thing (as is training - as ‘use it or lose it’ becomes even more important). If calories are matched then it makes no meaningful difference if you’re having a few or lots of meals, because when you zoom out at the overall time spent in a fed/fasted state it’s the same. The only thing to really consider is protein around training, since training is inherently demanding of protein due to the breakdown of muscle tissue, which really just comes down to common sense and really applies whether you’re dieting, maintaining or gaining:

A) You want some protein in you 1-2 hours before training
B) You want some protein in you 1-2 hours after training
 
Nice, I don't know what my max is yet. For the 4 months I was doing it at home I had max 75kg weight.

Today's session I did 95kg x8 twice. 7 reps last set. I will keep adding 5kg every week.

Weight 105 kg. Height 6 2/3

Just remember form over all else - touch wood I’ve never had a deadlift related injury, but there are loads of people in the gym who I’ve spoken to who have and watching many people deadlifting it isn’t surprising. 90kg is my target weight and to try to optimise all my other lifts within that limit.
 
Yeah, I'm learning this the hard way. Incorrect form on something has caused pain on left shoulder. Feels like the rotator cuff. Been like a week or so.
 
Yes, performed this today for the first time was good. Standing up, One leg forward, other back. One arm at a time, then pulled legs together slightly leaning forward and did it with both hands.

Also think im getting the right form for bench press, no shoulder pain today.
 
I really need to start posting in here some more - I used to post far more regularly!

I'm still training as much, but feel posting and reading here gives me that extra little bit of love for the gym and gains!!!

Hit a great back session on Sunday and am still feeling the DOMS from it - hit a nice clean 200kg deadlift but it felt heavier than I wanted it to.

Today I'm looking to get a decent shoulder, chest and tris pump - loving incline dumbbell pressing over anything else atm.
 
Waiting for my coach to come back with my weight workout so I've just been getting some cardio in. 4 sessions done in the last week, that's 4 times more than I've done in a week for many years.

It's leaving me starving but luckily I'm still on plenty of food, not sure how long that'll last though...
 
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