The 5 year plan to £50k

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You felt no need to respond to people who went out of their way to type a relevant reply that was helpful to you? But happily spend your own time replying to unhelpful or irrelevant posts?

From this alone you can spot the problem with your attitude that others have highlighted. You're ungrateful and unappreciative and have your priorities backwards. THAT is why people have said they dont think you'll get to 50k. ;)

Make of it what you will. I personally think there many people who enjoy having a dig. And I'm a sucker for taking the bait.

This thread is littered - and I mean that - littered with people who just want to criticise. And most of them did nothing else.

And if I post anything in response to these people then I open myself up to even more criticism, from even more people.

So you have found that I am not the kind of person to let it bounce off me. If someone wants to be a **** to me, I am not going to stand there and turn the other cheek.

Of course this means I won't ever earn 50k (lol) :D
 
To be honest, this makes you sound incredibly immature for a 34 year old. Based on that I think you will be lucky to earn 35k in 5 years.

Based on absolutely nothing at all, you mean?

So in Richdog's world, it's OK to mock and belittle someone, but if they ever become angry at this, they're immature. Logic, huh.
 
Whats your views on just moving out from under your parents feet?

Why not plan to be in your own place within the next 2 months?

The independence will show you how real people live their lives. In turn hopefully motivating you to change your ways.

I'm looking into it. Having taken advice from someone who knows the local property market very well, I should wait until later on in the year, when buyers get a better deal.

I'm not looking to rent.
 
I really cant see him buying a house any time soon.

Why cant you just rent and get out of your parents ASAP? Surely it affects how potential girlfriends view you. A bit independence will be worth a lot.

Edit : OP cant afford to fund uni, but is currently waiting til the end of the year when its more of a "buyers market" for a house purchase. Uh huh.

Why move out immediately? I just don't understand why so many people say this is my immediate priority.

Is it the idea that everyone should struggle financially for a while (except those born rich)? Not to mention that I would be paying off someone else's mortgage for them.

Tbh I *hate* the idea that I could be working 40 hours a week to pay for someone else to own a house. I *detest* that idea. Living at home is not perfect, but I don't dislike it.

Rent money is money you might as well burn. Not only that, it's making the rich richer. It's typical of everything that I feel is unfair with this country. You have no idea how much I would resent being a tenant.

And yet the suggestion is that I'd benefit somehow from actually being worse off... I genuinely fail to comprehend this argument.
 
Aren't you the furry? Surely having your own pad would allow you to pursue that more easily.

Pursue what exactly? Despite what you may have heard (from certain people), I don't dress up like animals or anything like that.

[edit: As mentioned before, the one big plus about having my own place would be that I could own a cat. That's pretty much it.]
 
Get in a house share, then your money is going to pay someone elses rent.

Just had a look at what house share entails. Have you? (Perhaps you meant finding someone to share a mortgage, but that's something different.)

1. It's leasehold. You don't own the property or the land, even after paying off all the mortgage.
2. The landlord/association (freeholder) owns the physical building - and all communal areas (staircases, hallways) - and can charge whatever he wants for repairs that only he has to deem necessary.
3. You still pay rent. You also pay mortgage, management fees/ground rent/agent fees.
4. You can't sell without the landlord's/housing association's permission. Also the other shared owners can block a sale.

Thanks for the suggestion. It's good to know about alternatives, even if they make renting look good ;) I suppose renting isn't without it's advantages, even if it's just the fact that you can up sticks and get the hell out.

How much rent do you pay to your parents? Or do they let you live there free?

A share of bills and a small amount of rent. About 1/4 of what actual rent down here would be (on a 3-bedroom house).
 
Betting 50k on Foxeye still being at his parents in a years time is probably a sound investment.

I can just tell by the way you post that you are beaten before you've even started. Does being at home at your age not depress you? Your parents are probably around 60. They have spent most of their adult life looking after you.

Surely you must feel it's time to get out from under their feet and pursue a life beyond a pay cheque.

You probably think we are being harsh but it's a real issue.

I'll think again about renting. It may be more sensible than I'd thought.

On a slight tangent, it's quite normal in other countries for families to live together, is it not? I know it's not here, but consider places like Mexico or India... as far as I know it's the norm for parents to live with their children? So the "shame" of living at home is not universal.

Btw, as for the potential disappointment of parents (due to living at home), I can tell you now that isn't the case. It has suited all parties for me to live here, up to now. There's been a small amount of friction about getting a cat, which won't happen while I'm at home, despite my attempts at persuasion. Other than that, we're a very close family, and living at home is not upsetting the parents at all.

Actually I'm quite worried about what would happen if I did move out, believe it or not. I do all the serious heavy lifting around the place, as you might expect.
 
Why haven't you applied for any jobs yet?

Don't assume I haven't been looking. True I haven't applied for anything yet, as there has been nothing in my area that even comes close to the wage I'm on now.

Also nothing in my area on less money with better prospects. So atm I'm carrying on here until the contract expires in March. I'll be looking for other stuff in the meantime - of course!
 
Well, if you want to dress up in a cat suit and let me be your owner, we can see where it leads...

Just don't tell Mags... it would break his heart.
 
So have you made any changes since the start of this thread? What direction you headed in?

I'm still in the "looking for inspiration" stage. Ie, have the occasional idea, do some Googling, try to find out a bit about whatever it is and if its viable to do for a living.

Not hit on any brilliant ideas just yet. Lots of dead ends as you'd probably expect.
 
3 weeks since looking for inspiration, have you found any yet? :)

Id really love to see this thread be proven.

Everything else is currently taking a back seat while I find my true love (a cat :D).

I'm still in the 27k job which finishes in March. If there are any new developments I'll update the thread... if not, I won't :p

Doing something vaguely "eco" appeals the most, but what that would translate into I don't really know. I guess I'm at least 20% hippy after all :p

Like everyone else, I'd just like to live comfortably and not under mountains of debt and stress. 50k is a figure I quite literally pulled out of my backside, but it's probably possible to do well on less than that. The housing market is a lot of the reason why we're all in debt up to our eyeballs.
 
Wouldn't it be a good idea to sort out the job and life before getting the cat? You only have around 6 months of employment left... yet that doesn't seem to put a boot up your bum?

The 6 months thing doesn't bother me in the slightest. I have no mortgage. I have a bit of savings now. I haven't taken any leave in 3 years. Three years. Except public holidays.

And you don't understand. I need a cat :p Living without a cat is making me increasingly unhappy. This kitteh is going to make life bearable again (assuming it doesn't hate me :p :)) Everything else can wait.

I still do think I'll move out, possibly next year, but I won't go anywhere until I have a job lined up. I'm not the sort of person who could cope with the stress of being in a new place with no job and bills to pay. I can get very anxious and that would be more stress than I could cope with.

Anyway that's all for now in this thread :p
 
Glad I'm not the only one......

KaHn

You're not; he's lost it.

Hehehe. What can I say? I'm not a "man's man". Why should I want to conform either to societal norms or some idealised male stereotype? In the other thread someone said I shouldn't use the word "kitteh" as a middle-aged bloke. Well why the heck not? I like that word.

I could have summed all that up with one word tho: whatever.
 
FoxEye - you really don't make it easy for yourself on here.

Edit - oh come on guys don't be cruel.

This is GD, only the strong survive this hell hole :p

FoxEye - aren't you the guy who's never kissed a girl before/never had a girlfriend or something like that?

Yeah you remember right. No point trying to hide it when there is a search function :p
 
Do you want a girlfriend? (Or are you gay?...) because comments like that (the cat thing) are super cringeworthy and the 'whatever' attitude just really isn't gonna get you anywhere..

Anyway, I know this thread isn't about cats or girlfriends, but aside from wanting to earn 50k, what else do you hope to have achieved by the time you're let's say, 40? Or 45? Genuinely curious...

Like you said this is kind of derailing the thread so I'll keep it short.

No I'm not gay. Would be easier if I was, I think. If some women was insane enough to find me attractive, I'd see where it led, sure. But I mostly either creep them out or as far as they're concerned I don't exist. In RL I'm really, really nervous and this makes even little things like eye contact actually painful.

Where do I see myself at 40? Same place most likely. I'm kind of a like a guy who's been in prison for 25 years. I would find it hard to cope on my own. Sad, but true.

I think I'm probably being too honest here. Magnolia will love this :eek:

... I wouldn't say this to anyone in RL. You guys, for better or worse, are pretty much the only social contact I have. Trust me, I know how this sounds. It sounds like it is. I'm not blind to reality. I just feel like I can't do anything about it. You don't want to be me, or get inside my head. It's a bad place to be.
 
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I'd say this list is better than the nhs one
• Repetitive behaviors (may want to watch the same program over and over again)
When speaking, I often repeat myself. The reason for this is mostly because conversation is so damn hard, if I've already thought of something to say I can say it twice so I'm talking for longer :p

• Unresponsive to commands or questions ("in their own world")
Not true. If I'm focused on something I can get irritated if interrupted. Does that count?

• Delayed speech & language development (non-verbal, especially by age 3)
No. Learned to read early. Normal early childhood development. Had social difficulties by the time I entered primary school. Did not make friends. My secondary school did call in the shrink a couple times for me tho ;) He gave me some tests and said I was pretty darn good at them ;) He must have found nothing wrong as I stayed at the same school and never saw him again.

• Lack of imitation of others or imaginative play
I have no idea how to judge my own imagination. I daydream a lot. I used to play with cars in a sandpit as a child. Mum always says I was an easy child to look after as I entertained myself for hours on end.

• Indifferent to the feelings of others
I wouldn't say that's accurate. I can be indifferent at times. I often don't know how to appropriately deal with other people when upset/angry, and indeed often get it wrong. But I just put that down to bad social skills.
I can lack empathy at times, but isn't that true of most people?

• Hypersensitivity to light & sound (covers ears when music is played or covers eyes when going outside)
I don't like sunlight but I'm not hypersensitive to it, I don't think. In bright sunlight my eyes weep. But that also happens on windy days. I just have weak eyes. I don't like loud noises or loud music at all, but that's because I value my hearing.

• Self-stimulatory behaviors (e.g., rocking, jumping up and down, hand flapping)
Not in this sense, no. I don't like to stand still, that much is true. I move from one leg to the other, or do a little jig, anything but stand still :p But I'm always conscious of it and can stop if I want to.
I do not have any abnormal behaviour in this regard, no hand flapping, no rocking. Just fidgets :)

• Echolalia (Repetition or echoing of a word or phrase just spoken by another person)
Nope.

• Unusual emotional responses (inappropriate laughing or crying)
Nope. Well, I don't think so. I am a bit emotional at times but that is mostly when I'm tired. I have massive mood swings.

• Frequent temper tantrums / meltdowns
I used to lose my temper a lot because I used to be a jerk. I control it better these days.

• Responds adversely to physical affection, hugs, kisses, etc.
I find physical contact very uncomfortable. But probably because I don't experience it very often.

• Shows no interest in making friends
On the one hand, true. But I'm also conscious of not having friends, and this bothers me. So is it true or not true?

• Does not initiate conversation
Very true. Painfully shy and often walk past people deliberately looking away from them, avoiding eye contact.

• Very poor diet (may eat only starches)
N/A. I don't do much cooking. OK, when I was at uni my diet was awful. Just awful :p

• Frequently walks on tip-toes as a toddler
Lol. No idea about that.

• Socially withdrawn or socially awkward
Very true.

• Shows little expressive language
Hmm, I'm quite good with language.

• Clumsiness (falls or trips often)
Nope, not at all. I have good balance and normal motor function.

• Improper use of pronouns, statements, and questions
Nope, I'm good with grammar. Just not spelling ;)

• Unusual tone or rhythm of speech
Nope, my speeach is normal.

• Self Injurious Behavior (head banging, scratching/biting self)
Nope.

• Frequently makes irrelevant remarks
Nope.

• Difficulty with abstract language and concepts
Nope?

• Be preoccupied with one or only a few narrow interests
Hmm. Could be true. OK probably true.

• Need for sameness (adheres to routines)
Nope, I don't have a routine. I get up at different times and no two days are alike in that respect.

• Severe tantrums when routines are disrupted
See above, nope.

• Shows an attachment to unusual objects such as car parts, branches, leaves, etc.
Nope.

• Fascination with spinning objects or spinning one’s self
Lol, nope.

• Very good at rote memory tasks such as repeating lists of items or facts
Nope. My memory is oh so poor.

I'm looked at all those questions/bullet points and answered with full honesty. I'm pretty sure I don't fit that profile well.

To be honest I've done self-tests for ASD before and always concluded it does not describe me.
 
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