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Are you one of those white van drivers that calls every man driving a convertible a poofter?
(I’m very sensitive and have never owned a car with a roof).
THE 50K CHALLENGE: NEW MUSTANG ON THE WAY, BUT WOULD 50K BE BETTER SPENT ON ANOTHER MARQUE?
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Are you one of those white van drivers that calls every man driving a convertible a poofter?
(I’m very sensitive and have never owned a car with a roof).
Caporegime
10 year old modded supercar? 
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-R8-...d=302541488853&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-R8-...d=302541488853&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
Soldato
That cayman is gorgeous!
Really has got me looking, seems they are appreciating as I thought the GTS was 55k new? Guess its down to the new ones sounding completely woeful in comparison.
This might sound bad but if I got a Cayman it would have to be yellow, blue or the nice red they do and this is where I might get shot down, but I'd want to put the GT4 front bumper, wing and other GT4 parts on it, not to try and built a copy but just because I absolutely adore the looks.
Problem is I sold my last 911 which has 370HP because it was not giving me the straight line acceleration I wanted so maybe I could find myself there again, but in fairness it did take nearly 5 years to really decide for more power and noise, hence Mustang.
The TT RS I fully respect for its performance, it would destroy nearly any other car in this thread on a British road as they make their power so accessible, but as others have said the RS3 I believe is same car, but for far less money due to not wearing the prom dress. But then read any review where the Golf R is thrown in for comparison and the Golf tends to win, supposedly more playful and engaging. If the Golf had that 5 pot soundtrack it would be near perfect!
Porsche has the looks and handling but only if I throw some GT4 styling parts at it.
Audi has the noise and performance, though in the cabin a straight 6 Porsche sounds glorious admittedly.
Just gonna spend some time looking and testing other cars and putting some serious thought into.
Last Mustang was a safe buy, they were bargains, now they just seem a little over priced and surely I think depreciation could be fast and harsh maybe. But its still really has so much going for it, I guess that is what Ford is gambling on.
Really do like the idea of an F-Type though, keeping finding myself looking at them.
The v8 F-type does also sound absolutely lovely also. But it depends if you can get the trim level you want to match on a 50k budget.
Trim does not interest me, all that matters for me is it has the right performance options if any and if it is an option that is has the buckets. Think it would have to be red, orange or the loud blue colour though, looks too tame in other colours.
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Is that 0-60 right, it looks quite slow for the power.
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4 seconds sound about right I'd have thought?
Soldato
Here’s an idea. Keep the Golf because we aren’t really getting anywhere and another mustang is a waste of money
And just bank the cash / don’t spend.
And just bank the cash / don’t spend.
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There comes a point where you start to doubt yourself hence this thread and the outcome goes back to the start idea which again just doesn’t seem to make sense?
Keep the Golf it’s a fantastic car and capable and probably cheap to run compared to what you’re used to.
Buy a new house / invest the money.
What happens if I die tomorrow?
I am happy with life, got a house, have a few holidays per year.
The only reason for me to bank cash would be a good idea and sensible to maybe just stick with the Golf for a year plus and save like crazy to maybe get in the car I dream off that can be driven daily, can do track days and is reliable out the box and get myself into a 991 GT3. Probably still not exotic enough for you though. But maybe my taste are simpler as I don't dream of Ferrari's or a Lambo.
RWD, but there again the AWD F-Type is also 3.9s so either Jaguar are conservative with timings or its just not the best trans/chassis/weight setup for 0-60 sprints and its probably all in the 0-30 bit, car is probably proper rapid once moving, considering its got 550HP and 500lb/ft.
VAG group I think have the fastest accelerating petrol powered 0-30 cars, hence why stuff like TT RS, RS3, Golf R with some extra power are silly quick, even top gear showed a TT RS embarrassing a GTR off the line. Superfast transmission and smart/fancy AWD systems have transformed acceleration from a stand still with their epic traction, super fast gear shifts etc.
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Yea I guess so, I'm just surprised it's not in the 3's with that power. My car is 130 hp down (or a typical family car) and that does it around 4 secs (although basic 4wd) and the m4s I've been looking at with similar power, do it in the same time.
Probably just the trans, M4 has very quick trans and good launch control if it hooks up.
My mates Mustang has 800HP, his best 0-60 is 4.5s, whereas my Golf with half the power will beat him every time to 60 without trying, beyond 80 though its different story I get left like I am not moving. As fast as the Golf is 0-60 or say 30-80 I do miss the shear acceleration and thrill of acceleration the Mustang had, it felt so much stronger, particular on say a 50-100 pull, reality is probably no faster but the Golf feels very dull in roll acceleration, even though its not slow, but there is no thrill about it, probably a lot to do with lack of noise, turbo power range and seamless gear shifts.
Soldato
If that noise is worth fifty thousand pounds then go for it.
You seem set on the idea so that’s job done.
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Then on your gravestone it would say “Gibbo the man who rinsed mad cash on mustangs”
Hold on 4.5s to 60 from 800bhp?! I had to read that twice.
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Yes and under 5s is hard, when you have 800HP hitting the back wheels through a manual gear box what do you expect? Its hardly any quicker than a bone stock Mustang to 60, and the new Mustang with 460HP is far quicker than his to 60. Unfortunately so few people just look at 0-60 and summarise it as the true performance statistic for a car where in reality and day to day driving it really means nothing. The best statistic is really 30-130mph but is a stat generally not done as such next best is quarter mile and look at the trap speed, as trap speed really tells you how strong a car is rolling.
Perfect example, Kosta I think ran a 12.4@107 in his Scoob, I was running circa 13.5@113 in my Mustang, so the Scoob is faster, yet accelerating from a roll on the motorway the Mustang walked it. Hence look at the trap/terminal speeds and is why GTR is so good because they don't only just have low ET's from great traction but they also trap around 125mph too, meaning a GTR will pretty much hand most cars their ass from any situation, dig, roll, 100+ etc.
Or my mates Mustang 12.4@130mph compared to my Golf's 12.2@117mph, so my Golf must be quicker, yet on the motorway I did not see which way he had gone, the difference was not even close at high speed acceleration.