The Air Rifles & Pistols thread

[Zenduri]

I noticed the scope on the HW was also what I would consider to be "high magnification" at 5-30x56, do you actually use the top end (x24 or higher etc) much as I found that for my eyes, around x6-x8 was my sweet-spot for hunting/HFT type shooting but I don't know what yours are setup for?

I tried a MTC Viper at 6-24x50 as my highest mag scope but didn't get on with it at all and eventually swapped to a MTC Mamba Lite in 4-16x42 and found that it was perfect for me with my usage.

It depends to be honest. All my shooting is hung target and steel knockdown targets. Generally im set at 40m but shoot to 60-70m and as short as 20m. If im shooting paper targets at 40m ill be zoomed right in or if im shooting at one of bell targets at 40m that has a 15mm hole i'll be zoomed righ in. Steel targets at 20m and 30m, ill be at 5-10x. Steel targets at 40m-60m prob around low 20x's. I do need glasses (i dont currently wear any) and need to get to the opticians though so i'm compensating a bit with the scope

 

[ianh]

Generally im set at 40m but shoot to 60-70m and as short as 20m.

Thanks for the reply, I was mostly shooting around 15-30m (pest control) with just the odd shot out to maybe 40m at most for HFT hence my low mag levels I guess.

 

[Mark A]

Be prepared for a workout if you go down the stirrup pump route, they're knackering. One of the folks at my club has the mito and im due to give it a try when I next see them but they did say they had to machine the front sight for their usage. I've seen a few claims the iron sights arent too great but the pistol itself is nice. Common claims ive seen are the front post is too big and you cant adjust the rear sight enough for some close target work.

Thanks, I'll be interested to hear your thoughts if you do have a go with it. I think I probably have a long wait for it as its out of stock a lot of the places (seems to be a trend with airgunning stuff at the moment). Hopefully I could fit an aftermarket set of iron sights. Or I might even buy a decent red dot sight for it.

 

[Zenduri]

Well its back from a service and all dressed up in a stock (shes a bit of a an old girl (2007) and a beater anyway).I've had a foster fitting installed to make filling it easier especially since it was an original non T- BAR fill port. Put a cheapy 6-24x50 scope on that i already had and does the job then gave it its first ever bipod. If its all good over the chrono and its firing well on Sunday then im planning to swap the moderator to something more easily removeable (transport reasons). I've already got one lined up from the S410TDR which has a thumb screw not a grub screw.

Also included my HW110 now its basically in its final form with some decent optics and a decent bipod

So all is good with the S410 and i've got the mod from an S410 TDR on it as its easily removeable as it has a thumdscrew rather than the stock mod which need an allen key. I did have a bit of pellet testing with a sampler pack and it seems ot like H&N Barracuda 18s and JSB exacts so on'ce ive got rid of some older pellets I have i'll grab maybe a tin or 2 of those.

I did have a moment with the S410 where i thought it was still buggered as i filled it up and it was only shooting 9ft lbs and accuracy was all over the place. Then realised unlike my HW110 which while isnt regulated acts as if it is and give me consistant shoots from 200bar down to about 80 bar the S410 has no regulation at all so it has a sweet spot where it will give 50-60 full power nice accurate shots but either side of that theres a power curve. Seems mines from about 160bar to 110bar. Whole different shooting experience compared to the HW110

 

[Hotwired]

So all is good with the S410 and i've got the mod from an S410 TDR on it as its easily removeable as it has a thumdscrew rather than the stock mod which need an allen key. I did have a bit of pellet testing with a sampler pack and it seems ot like H&N Barracuda 18s and JSB exacts so on'ce ive got rid of some older pellets I have i'll grab maybe a tin or 2 of those.

I did have a moment with the S410 where i thought it was still buggered as i filled it up and it was only shooting 9ft lbs and accuracy was all over the place. Then realised unlike my HW110 which while isnt regulated acts as if it is and give me consistant shoots from 200bar down to about 80 bar the S410 has no regulation at all so it has a sweet spot where it will give 50-60 full power nice accurate shots but either side of that theres a power curve. Seems mines from about 160bar to 110bar. Whole different shooting experience compared to the HW110

I have news for you, your HW110 is a regulated rifle from the factory.

If you ever want to fiddle with it, this is where it is:

 

[Zenduri]

I have news for you, your HW110 is a regulated rifle from the factory.

If you ever want to fiddle with it, this is where it is:

I was always under the impression that the HW110 doesnt have a conventional regulator but has some custom jiggery pokery which operates like a regulator. However on the weihrauch.de website it does say "with regulator". It has ruined me though as its so easy to shoot and you dont have to account for the sweetspot like you do with the S410. Definitely 2 different styles of shooting required when switching between the 2

 

[Hotwired]

I was always under the impression that the HW110 doesnt have a conventional regulator but has some custom jiggery pokery which operates like a regulator. However on the weihrauch.de website it does say "with regulator". It has ruined me though as its so easy to shoot and you dont have to account for the sweetspot like you do with the S410. Definitely 2 different styles of shooting required when switching between the 2

It uses a different style but there is a regulator. There's some odd discussions on the internet but they're mistaken.

I don't know if I could go back to unregulated. I took the reg out of a rifle that normally was unregged and the power curve was astonishingly bad. Pellets bouncing off a wad of newspaper at max pressure and so slow the chrono couldn't see them. Then the power slowly went up to too high then back down again. Naaaah.

If you have a large bottle gun the "good" pressure zone is probably quite reasonable but I have small tube air reservoirs and I might be looking at 20 consistent shots unregged. Or with regulator, 50-60. It's an easy choice.

I've heard good things about well designed unregulated rifles but it's just better with a reg so why bother.

 

[ianh]

From my own experience for reg'd vs unreg'd, I started off my PCP airgun history with a Logun Solo (unregulated) but didn't know muich about PCP's at that point so things like power curve, shot FPS consistency etc were something I knew nothing about but I felt it shot "OK" as a first PCP. Then I had an AA S200 which I used for ratting and I noticed that aimpoint shift far more readily as the pressure dropped as the S200 is an unregulated rifle and I started to learn about the power curve, regulators etc and considering the relatively small air cylinder, I was still surprised to see that the S200's consistency was pretty poor with only about 30-ish shots at a "good enough" consistent FPS (10fps variation) which rapidly dropped off a cliff past those "good enough" shots.

I then decided to mod the living poop out of it and added a BSA Ultra barrel & Ultra Cylinder (both over 6in shorter for way easier vehicle use around the farm) and added a custom "Tweaky" regulator to the Ultra cylinder and the difference was night & day, a genuine moment were I realised "why go back to unreg'd on anything" as my consistent "single figure" FPS variation shot count virtually doubled to about 60-ish shots on a much smaller air cylinder!

Due to that S200 experience I later bought a BSA S10 Mk3 (amazing - best thing I bought) and a Daystate Airwolf MCT (not worth the money TBH) which were both regulated and that consistency the reg brought was a huge game changer for me.