The Air Rifles & Pistols thread

Might have agreed in principle a purchase of a, new to me, .22 air rifle. I've been eyeing a few rifles up recently and by chance a bloke at my range went to buy an air rifle compressor off someone but they wouldnt let it go unless they bought the air rifle as well (owner had died and seller just wanted rid of it all). So he bought the Hills compressor but also walked away with a Brocock Commander XR 480cc carbon bottle, in a case with a £300 scope on it. He brought it down the range last week and had a shoot with it but he prefers .177 and this is .22. He let me have a go with it and i've kind of fell in love with it and he knows it! Anyway, yesterday he had it at the range and asked if i wanted it. After a bit of thought we've agreed in principle on a price for the rifle and mod, no scope and i've gave myself a week to think about it before fully committing.

It looks to be in mint condition and I get the impression its spent most of its life in its hard case. I need to give it a good look over but im 95% sure im going to have it at the moment. Its mouse fart quiet, very well balanced and smooth as butter to operate. Pretty sure im going to sell my S410 now to fund a fair chunk of the rifle. It retails at ~£1200-£1300 and i've agreed on a little over half that so its a bit of a steal in my opinion.

This isnt the rifle im buying as i dont have it yet or any photos but this is the rifle in question so this pic is just for reference. The grip, buffer tube and stock are all AR compatible so it give me some options to change some of the furniture. I did ideally want the folding stock version but is the fixed stock version. It can be rectified though by adding an AR folding stock mount

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Pretty sure a guy had one of those at the range yesterday.

I'm not really into air rifles I know little about them, but I said to the guy I thought it looked cool and he said he was really pleased with it.
 
Well the guy who was selling me the above rifle welched on the deal and after asking him what hes willing to let it go for hes decided to now keep it. :rolleyes:

So im now looking at the Brocock Ghost Plus and im in discussion over a discount on the pricing with a shop at the moment however that will be a late January purchase. I was toying with getting a bullpup before i saw the commander but now thats off the table im angling back at this now. The aim is to let my current .22 air rifle go and sell that to offset some of the cost.

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Just waiting for it to be built at Brocock then shipped from there to the store I ordered from then to me. Managed to get a 10% discount plus free postage so a fair bit saved and by far the cheapest deal anywhere on the internet.

Also managed to pick up a very good bipod for cheap using an Amazon gift card balance I had sitting around

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Finally arrived but my god have i had a ballache getting this.

I received my Ghost last Thursday and it was a mess, obvious wear, some rust, a scratch on the barrel and poor bluing on the barrel. To cut the story short it came from the factory like that and i suspect someone tried to pass off a demo unit that was at least 6 months old as a new rifle. After kicking a bit of a stink up online I eventually ended up dealing with the factory direct rather than the retailer to arrange a replacement. They ended up building this one on Monday, tested Wednesday and delivered today and this time its all new parts and genuinely a new rifle. They did throw in free £165 moderator as a good will gesture so while my initial experience was crap my current opinion is much better considering how promptly they acknowledged their failing and how they put it right.


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Zenduri said:
Finally arrived but my god have i had a ballache getting this.

I received my Ghost last Thursday and it was a mess, obvious wear, some rust, a scratch on the barrel and poor bluing on the barrel. To cut the story short it came from the factory like that and i suspect someone tried to pass off a demo unit that was at least 6 months old as a new rifle. After kicking a bit of a stink up online I eventually ended up dealing with the factory direct rather than the retailer to arrange a replacement. They ended up building this one on Monday, tested Wednesday and delivered today and this time its all new parts and genuinely a new rifle. They did throw in free £165 moderator as a good will gesture so while my initial experience was crap my current opinion is much better considering how promptly they acknowledged their failing and how they put it right.
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Oddly, when you posted about this on AGF, you got a sleeve of pellets free rather than a moderator upgrade, and the ballache/kicking up a stick was you called Pellpax/messaged Ross at Pellpax and Olivia at BRK and sent pic's like anyone would do, and between them, they arranged for you to deal with BRK rather than Pellpax to speed up the return/replacement. You even mention how promptly they acknowledged the issue and put it right, so i'm not sure what part of that requires 'eventually', 'ballache' or 'kicking up a stink'? From what I read, you got your issue resolved with minimal effort and quickly, unlike some, just a shame BRK sent the first gun out to Pellpax like that, but no need to ham it up on here.
 
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Oddly, when you posted about this on AGF, you got a sleeve of pellets free rather than a moderator upgrade, and the ballache/kicking up a stick was you called Pellpax/messaged Ross at Pellpax and Olivia at BRK and sent pic's like anyone would do, and between them, they arranged for you to deal with BRK rather than Pellpax to speed up the return/replacement. You even mention how promptly they acknowledged the issue and put it right, so i'm not sure what part of that requires 'eventually', 'ballache' or 'kicking up a stink'? From what I read, you got your issue resolved with minimal effort and quickly, unlike some, just a shame BRK sent the first gun out to Pellpax like that, but no need to ham it up on here.
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You could argue it is a bit fo a ballache after waiting weeks for it to arrive to then to arrive in a poor condition and then have to spend time contacting pellpax and BRK and then having to rebox it all to send it back. I shouldn't have had to spend time going through all those motions. I posted the thread on AGF to highlight my dissatisfaction and then pointed all relevant parties to that thread.

When i spoke to pellpax initially they said they would come back to me but didnt, when i spoke to Liz? at BRK, initially they didnt really want to know as obviously my sales contract was with pellpax which is understandable however the point i made was that it shouldnt have left the factory as it did and it all could have been avoided. It was the 2nd call to pellpax that they acknowledged the issue and they said they would come back to me the following day. It was the following day Olivia from BRK contacted me and she was actually a real driving force to get it sorted promptly.

Olivia stood out from the crowd to resolve the matter but there was a bit of heel dragging going on initially from all parties. So the thread was kicking up a stink to drive some prompt reaction which it did. It was a ballache having to chase around initially to get the ball rolling to resolve the issue.

My choice of words here isnt hamming it up, its genuinely how i felt about it even if i didnt use the same wording on AGF. Olvia went above and beyond which i am truely grateful for. I've even had to contact her this week for a replacement trigger post as the current one is too loose and wouldnt tighten down. She posted it Tuesday and it arrived today, its fitted and the matters resolved. I'm very happy with how quickly and effectively that issue was resolved and i have thanked Olivia several times already, however, again its another ballache to have to request a new part for a brand new rifle because the tolerance on the trigger post was too high.

I'm happy with how promptly and positively the issues have been resolved, and the good will gesture was a very nice offer however, this all could have been avoided.
 
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It's not really it's an air rifle and pistols thread.

But as we are waving our wangs about here is my KAR98K.

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neodude said:
Now that's a thing of beauty! Want one! You have any trouble getting ammo for it?
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Cheers yea got lucky.

The BYF 43 is the code they used during the second minor disagreement with Germany, means it was manufactured in 1943 in the Mauser factory in Obendorf.

It serial number matches several parts on the bolt so I'm pretty sure the receiver and bolt match, the barrel band is also consistent with the year.

The only thing I'm not certain on is the stock, they were using laminated wood, so that is correct, but it doesn't have the milled decoking plate on the stock, and instead has the small hole in the buttplate, which was more consistent with 44 onwards, but could possibly be late 43.

The bore is in pretty good condition I get about 3-4 inch group at 100 meters, which isn't bad for an 80 year old rifle plus open sights at 100 yards anyway.

The sight are miles off though, shoots about 8 inches high and about 2 inches left at 100 yards, and whilst I could possibly adjust the windage, I don't really want to be knocking about 80 year old metal parts and the elevation you can't do anything about as it's set at minimum.

They sights were never designed for target shooting anyway.

That being said I can 9/10 hit a 6" inch metal plate at 100 yards that good enough for me.

The scary thing is, although it's just an inanimate object really, that thing might have killed someone, or the original owner might have been killed, I guess we'll never know.

Edit: yea no problems with ammo, 8mm Mauser is still used in Europe so it's quite common, I reload my own anyway, you can get the brass and heads etc from Henry Crank.
 
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BUDFORCE said:
The scary thing is, although it's just an inanimate object really, that thing might have killed someone, or the original owner might have been killed, I guess we'll never know.
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Yeah, I'm planning on getting a Lee Enfield No4 for that reason, owning a little bit of history.

Thanks for the info. Interesting stuff.
 
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neodude said:
Yeah, I'm planning on getting a Lee Enfield No4 for that reason, owning a little bit of history.

Thanks for the info. Interesting stuff.
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There are loads of those knocking about, is there a particular variant you are after?

I was half thinking about getting one of those, the sights are supposed to be a bit better as you really have to get down on the Mauser rifle.

Im after a .308 myself next, modern one though, I'm seriously considering buying an Accuracy International AT, local shop has one, not cheap though. Im honestly trying to decide whether I can justify it.
 
BUDFORCE said:
There are loads of those knocking about, is there a particular variant you are after?

I was half thinking about getting one of those, the sights are supposed to be a bit better as you really have to get down on the Mauser rifle.

Im after a .308 myself next, modern one though, I'm seriously considering buying an Accuracy International AT, local shop has one, not cheap though. Im honestly trying to decide whether I can justify it.
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Would like a T, but those are few and far between, so I'll probably just pick up a standard MkI. Just lack of funds currently, I have an order in for a Marlin 1894 Dark in 357MAG, hopefully get that in the spring sometime.


I also considered an AI, but couldn't justify the cost. The RPR is doing me fine for the moment, and I have some upgrades on the way from the US.
 
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