The AMD Driver Thread

Final8y · 21 Mar 2015 at 13:34

andybird123 said:
It doesn't always work though.

Which the same goes for NVs clean install and DDU is the app of choice so lets move on.

deuse · 21 Mar 2015 at 13:35

Uncle Petey said:
I guess you picked a bad time.
You still haven't really given any specifics, other than you want a drop down menu for something or other and a clean install button.

If you've used NV profiles you would know why it's a good feature to have.
This is on single and SLI cards.

TheRealDeal · 21 Mar 2015 at 13:36

andybird123 said:
It doesn't always work though, and typically you are much safer with AMD doing a full uninstall and use a cleaner, then install new drivers fresh. Where as with nvidia you can typically just install in place and maybe tick that tickbox.

It isn't a massive issue, but for people moving from nvidia to AMD or who use both regularly, it just isn't as slick as it could be. And that sort of overall experience sometimes bleeds through to other areas.

Of course there are always people who will say "but I've always used brand X and never had a problem", but sales figures hinge on something, and you tend to pick up a trend in threads like this one, if you filter out some of the more persistent posters.

A little bit of spit and polish could go a long way to getting AMD back in the game.

Personally i always found that cleaners were more trouble than they were worth. I always use the amd catalyst install manager to uninstall, reboot and install the new drivers. This never gives me any problems and i believe it's the way your meant to do it. I tried a cleaner back on win xp and had all sort of problems getting drivers to install with it. Ended up having to reinstall windows and have never used a cleaner since. I have also tried installing new drivers over the old ones as people said that was a good method and surprise surprise i ended up with problems. Following the proper methods in my case has led to me having basically no problems where installing drivers is concerned.

Final8y · 21 Mar 2015 at 13:38

TheRealDeal said:
Personally i always found that cleaners were more trouble than they were worth. I always use the amd catalyst install manager to uninstall, reboot and install the new drivers. This never gives me any problems and i believe it's the way your meant to do it. I tried a cleaner back on win xp and had all sort of problems getting drivers to install with it. Ended up having to reinstall windows and have never used a cleaner since. I have also tried installing new drivers over the old ones as people said that was a good method and surprise surprise i ended up with problems. Following the proper methods in my case has led to me having basically no problems where installing drivers is concerned.

I have never had any issue using AMDs method either.

africanos23 · 21 Mar 2015 at 13:39

TheRealDeal said:
Personally i always found that cleaners were more trouble than they were worth. I always use the amd catalyst install manager to uninstall, reboot and install the new drivers. This never gives me any problems and i believe it's the way your meant to do it. I tried a cleaner back on win xp and had all sort of problems getting drivers to install with it. Ended up having to reinstall windows and have never used a cleaner since. I have also tried installing new drivers over the old ones as people said that was a good method and surprise surprise i ended up with problems. Following the proper methods in my case has led to me having basically no problems where installing drivers is concerned.

DDU (from Guru3D) is amazing and easy. I interchange GPUs (AMD to NVidia or vice versa) every couple of days and have never had a problem. Things have progressed quite a bit from XP.

Confused Stu · 21 Mar 2015 at 13:44

andybird123 said:
It doesn't always work though, and typically you are much safer with AMD doing a full uninstall and use a cleaner, then install new drivers fresh. Where as with nvidia you can typically just install in place and maybe tick that tickbox.

It isn't a massive issue, but for people moving from nvidia to AMD or who use both regularly, it just isn't as slick as it could be. And that sort of overall experience sometimes bleeds through to other areas.

Of course there are always people who will say "but I've always used brand X and never had a problem", but sales figures hinge on something, and you tend to pick up a trend in threads like this one, if you filter out some of the more persistent posters.

A little bit of spit and polish could go a long way to getting AMD back in the game.

Agreed - moving from Nvidia to AMD is very problematic, but that's because Nvidia don't provide a decent uninstaller - you have to uninstall each piece individually and reboot between each. Moving from AMD to Nvidia requires one " Express Uninstall", that's never let me down, and then a single reboot. I agree switching between the two isn't slick, but for me that's Nvidia needing to improve, not AMD.

deuse · 21 Mar 2015 at 13:48

Confused Stu said:
Agreed - moving from Nvidia to AMD is very problematic, but that's because Nvidia don't provide a decent uninstaller - you have to uninstall each piece individually and reboot between each. Moving from AMD to Nvidia requires one " Express Uninstall", that's never let me down, and then a single reboot. I agree switching between the two isn't slick, but for me that's Nvidia needing to improve, not AMD.

Well that's great news for people moving back to NV

£220 GTX 970s can be had in Europe now

LtMatt · 21 Mar 2015 at 13:50

TheRealDeal said:
Personally i always found that cleaners were more trouble than they were worth. I always use the amd catalyst install manager to uninstall, reboot and install the new drivers. This never gives me any problems and i believe it's the way your meant to do it. I tried a cleaner back on win xp and had all sort of problems getting drivers to install with it. Ended up having to reinstall windows and have never used a cleaner since. I have also tried installing new drivers over the old ones as people said that was a good method and surprise surprise i ended up with problems. Following the proper methods in my case has led to me having basically no problems where installing drivers is concerned.

Final8y said:
I have never had any issue using AMDs method either.

That's the way to do it gents.

DDU is great, but there is no need to use it if there are no problems.

For instructions on how to uninstall or install the AMD Catalyst Software Suite, you may refer to the following support resources:

How-To Uninstall AMD Catalyst™ Drivers From A Windows® Based System
How-To Install AMD Catalyst™ Drivers For A Windows® Based System

Confused Stu · 21 Mar 2015 at 13:51

deuse said:
Well that's great news for people moving back to NV

£220 GTX 970s can be had in Europe now

AMD have always supported customer freedom unlike Nvidia's lock-in strategies.

TwsT · 21 Mar 2015 at 13:52

no they haven't

they've just let nvidia get away with it.

eddyr · 21 Mar 2015 at 13:56

I think you missed the funny there Twst

bemaniac · 21 Mar 2015 at 13:58

Whats with all the moans now we have the driver and for me at least it works stunningly well. The only reason we still don't have a dying light profile is because of nvidias stupid corrupt way of helping people develop games. Who the hell wants to support the darkside, they're thought of as the darkside for a damn good reason.

Gregster · 21 Mar 2015 at 13:58

Confused Stu said:
AMD have always supported customer freedom unlike Nvidia's lock-in strategies.

I don't want to come across bad here but is that because AMD outsource most of the techs/innovations? AMD don't really do anything now and everything I read is AMD working with "x". At least they can blame them when things are not ready

Nutella33 · 21 Mar 2015 at 14:07

Gregster said:
I don't want to come across bad here but is that because AMD outsource most of the techs/innovations? AMD don't really do anything now and everything I read is AMD working with "x".

I tend to see that as more AMD coming up with stuff but having to secure other partners for market penetration so it looks appealing for others to support due to poor market share. And currently they are using lots of partners from their CPU/low power business.

If they dont, we get a true audio situation where nothing happens

Twst said:
no they haven't

they've just let nvidia get away with it.

Good logic though. Nvidia take the mick and its AMD's fault.

humbug · 21 Mar 2015 at 14:31

AMDMatt said:
It won't be coming to the 7xxx series of cards, but we're exploring options to bring it to the R9 270/280.

This has been communicated from the start.

That feature is unannounced, that's why we've not mentioned it.

Farcry 4 is working, but a Crossfire profile is not going to fix any existing issues with the game.

If people are having problems with Farcry 4 not running smoothly, then I'd take a look at these two videos and listen to the advice posted by tommy.

That worked, its butter smooth now, thanks Matt

humbug · 21 Mar 2015 at 14:38

Gregster said:
I don't want to come across bad here but is that because AMD outsource most of the techs/innovations? AMD don't really do anything now and everything I read is AMD working with "x". At least they can blame them when things are not ready

What tech and innovation do they outsource?

The worlds first Multi-Core Desktop Processor?
The worlds first 64Bit Desktop Processors?
The X86_64 instructions? Which is inside your Intel CPU.
GDDR3 and GDDR5? Which Nvidia are already using.
Mantle which is now the core of Vulkan?
Free-Sync?
HBM? which Nvidia will be using in 2016.

Let me ask you this, what have Nvidia done?

Nothing, they just sponge off everyone else.

Martini1991 · 21 Mar 2015 at 14:48

We're back to AMD invented everything again?

humbug · 21 Mar 2015 at 14:50

Martini1991 said:
We're back to AMD invented everything again?

No they didn't. Intel and IBM claim as much. this is about dispelling the myth that AMD outsource and do nothing of their own.

Martini1991 · 21 Mar 2015 at 14:53

humbug said:
No they didn't. Intel and IBM claim as much. this is about dispelling the myth that AMD outsource and do nothing of their own.

Then your post doesn't do much to help that?

Mantle is something AMD did on their own back, but Vulcan certainly isn't.
Freesync isn't also an AMD on their own thing either, given you know, the VESA standard thing.

AMD have done some stuff on their own back granted, but it's largely gone nowhere.

And you've ignored Nvidia's shadowplay innovating, Gsync innovation (Although obvious why...)

You're also going back years and years and years and years and years. If we do that, lets talk multi-GPU innovation. Which came first? SLI or Crossfire? SLI.

All I see is another defend AMD biased Humbug post.

elmuzzy66. · 21 Mar 2015 at 14:55

Can some clear up who invented mantle. Dice or amd?