The AMD Driver Thread

humbug · 21 Mar 2015 at 14:58

Martini1991 said:
Then your post doesn't do much to help that?

Mantle is something AMD did on their own back, but Vulcan certainly isn't.
Freesync isn't also an AMD on their own thing either, given you know, the VESA standard thing.

AMD have done some stuff on their own back granted, but it's largely gone nowhere.

And you've ignored Nvidia's shadowplay innovating, Gsync innovation (Although obvious why...)

I'm talking about stuff that has at least been picked up and used by others or the industry as a whole.
Stuff thats made a difference to us all.

So: Multicore Processing, 64Bit, GDDR have gone nowhere?
HBM is going nowhere?

Mantle is also one of those, picked up by Khronos.

Martini1991 · 21 Mar 2015 at 15:00

Yeah, I'm not going to have this discussion with you, you'll see it through crimson glasses as always.
What you apply to AMD you'd never apply to Nvidia. And you're also ignoring that parts of what you're praising were ATI rather than AMD, and on the whole, the company that did X or Y 9 years ago isn't the same company as today etc.

layte · 21 Mar 2015 at 15:02

I see Humbug has his revisionist history hat on again.

humbug said:
What tech and innovation do they outsource?

The worlds first Multi-Core Desktop Processor?

Nope, The Ultrasparc IV was out a year before. (and yes, it was used in desktop machines)
Edit: The first dual core Pentium was released a week before the first Athlon 64X2

humbug said:
The worlds first 64Bit Desktop Processors?

haha absolutely no way, the DEC Alpha was 64bit capable years (decade?) before anything from AMD.

humbug said:
The X86_64 instructions? Which is inside your Intel CPU.

Taking what Intel had done and just extending it. Intel's x64 implementation and extensions are far superior these days.

humbug said:
GDDR3 and GDDR5? Which Nvidia are already using.

Developed in conjunction with....

humbug said:
Mantle which is now the core of Vulkan?

Dropped like a hot potato now it's no longer suitable for PR purposes, never worked with other vendors hardware and couldn't even work properly between different versions of GCN.

humbug said:
Free-Sync?

If you ignore G-Sync and that variable sync existed in laptops for years.

humbug said:
HBM? which Nvidia will be using in 2016.

Developed in conjunction with....

Ian Evey · 21 Mar 2015 at 15:04

elmuzzy66. said:
Can some clear up who invented mantle. Dice or amd?

If it works great then AMD invented it, If it doesn't work then dice invented it.

Either scenario makes no difference to the fact that mantle has been passed on.

elmuzzy66. · 21 Mar 2015 at 15:07

Funny that ati created gddr3 but it was NV who used in 1st on GC. Old habbits die hard it seems.

LtMatt · 21 Mar 2015 at 15:11

Can we keep this to talk about drivers please?

humbug said:
That worked, its butter smooth now, thanks Matt

Glad it helped.

Uncle Petey · 21 Mar 2015 at 15:12

deuse said:
If you've used NV profiles you would know why it's a good feature to have.
This is on single and SLI cards.

What, the ability to save a profile for each game? You can do that.

Matson · 21 Mar 2015 at 15:15

Can you please explain what you mean by disabling GW features in far cry 4 to get crossfire to work properly?

humbug · 21 Mar 2015 at 15:16

Nvm. back on topic.

LtMatt · 21 Mar 2015 at 15:17

Matson said:
Can you please explain what you mean by disabling GW features in far cry 4 to get crossfire to work properly?

I don't think anyone said that Matson. Crossfire works regardless, what we recommend is to disable GameWorks effects for improved performance.

eddyr · 21 Mar 2015 at 15:24

Ian Evey said:
Either scenario makes no difference to the fact that mantle has been passed on.

Not directly at you Ian, but was this not what people wanted around mantle's debut with statements to the effect that it and the effort involved wouldn't go anywhere unless something like what has happened happened?

humbug · 21 Mar 2015 at 15:25

AMDMatt said:
I don't think anyone said that Matson. Crossfire works regardless, what we recommend is to disable GameWorks effects for improved performance.

I find that Volumetric Fog milks up the Image anyway, its not targeted enough, it just sort off paste its self over your view. its like a haze filter over the camera.

deuse · 21 Mar 2015 at 15:25

Uncle Petey said:
What, the ability to save a profile for each game? You can do that.

No. But you haven't used the NV drivers so you won't know and I can't be arsed trying to teach you.Believe me it's far superior.

Anyway as Matt said "back on topic"

bemaniac · 21 Mar 2015 at 15:36

shankly1985 · 21 Mar 2015 at 15:43

Gregster said:
This might get a few backs up but I have been biting my tongue for too long but why is every single problem everyone else's fault but not AMD's. Freesync monitors released too early and monitor manufacturers fault. GameWorks titles and never AMDs fault that they don't have crossfire profiles, even when they have been working with the devs. 144Hz not working on the swift because Asus didn't use an industry standard scaler. Christ, even AMD sponsored games like Alien and it was the devs fault for crossfire not working.

Rant over!!!

Alien Crossfire was working from day one, I should know completed it..
Retails released Freesync monitors early even Gibbo said this..
GameWorks is known to effect AMD FC4 runs much better with most disabled. for very little difference in IQ

If Asus did use a different scaler to the norm then it is Acer fault..

The only thing I disagree with AMD at the moment is the time frame for this 15.3 driver.. But if its for the better in the long run that am game..

Watlinguk · 21 Mar 2015 at 15:45

honestly get the crossfire freesync driver out asap, us with a 295x2/Crossfire setup and a freesync monitor are just getting shafted

Meladath · 21 Mar 2015 at 15:45

layte said:
Edit: The first dual core Pentium was released a week before the first Athlon 64X2

Ok, a lot of the stuff you said is true.

Although you MUST know that you are pointing out this fact PURELY to prove him wrong and not because it actually matters right?

Intel's first dual core CPU was HILARIOUSLY terrible compared to AMD's first dual core. Intel rushed their first to the market just so they could "do it first" but it was completely terrible.

shankly1985 · 21 Mar 2015 at 15:45

Ayahuasca said:
In your own words you only play CSGO anyway so what would you know?

I play mostly only CSGO, I still play other games lol

Uncle Petey · 21 Mar 2015 at 16:01

deuse said:
No. But you haven't used the NV drivers so you won't know and I can't be arsed trying to teach you.Believe me it's far superior.

Anyway as Matt said "back on topic"

Could you possibly be arsed to not be so vague and well, not such an arse?

We're talking about driver features , so this is on topic. Or it was...

Bonjour · 21 Mar 2015 at 16:40

layte said:
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haha absolutely no way, the DEC Alpha was 64bit capable years (decade?) before anything from AMD.
...

Sorry, I don't usually do this, but I had to pick this up. Whilst awesome, the DAC Alpha can't really be considered a 'desktop' part (Mr. Bug was even careful to include the word 'desktop'). It's primary applications were in workstations and servers.

You can't take the development of x86-64 away from AMD. It brought 64-bit processors to the masses and put Intel on the back foot, prompting them to bring an entire processor line to a premature end (there were a couple more iterations of the P4 architecture planned) and forced them to seriously up their game.

On-topic.. thanks for the drivers. Will probably be purchasing FC4 later today to give it a whirl. I think AMD's drivers generally are excellent, but can understand the frustration in waiting for Crossfire profiles. I've just used the time to catch up with some of my back catalog.