The AMD Driver Thread

thecremeegg · 21 May 2015 at 12:39

My 7970 Xfire setup will be getting replaced with a 980ti most likely. Shame really as the cards are more than what is needed for 1200p but half the games don't work properly!

LoadsaMoney · 21 May 2015 at 12:48

shankly1985 said:
Has anyone just stepped back and looked at all this in another way? Think back over all these games that AMD have had too take more time in releasing a driver.. What do they all have in common?? GameWorks! Its clear that AMD are spending more time trying to work around getting more performance from the driver in these titles..

Some you just need to bloody chill the hell out! I feel the pointing finger at AMD for these drivers isn't only there fault...

And no am not saying AMD is perfect! far from it.. Am getting abit worried over Crossfire FreeSync! I feel this should been sorted along time ago.

My little Rant! Don't agree I don't care! But just step back and look around whats happened in the past months and games that have released.

What about them holding their drivers and Xfire profiles back for nigh on 4 months, as they wouldn't release them until some new monitors got released.

Be a waste of time them saying that wasn't the reason, it was our Freesync driver, when everyone knows it was, as how else could they release a GTA driver, a Freesync fixes driver, and have a driver incoming for the Witcher 3 and Project Cars now, when they are still working on their Freesync driver.

Devrij · 21 May 2015 at 12:58

LoadsaMoney said:
What about them holding their drivers and Xfire profiles back for nigh on 4 months, as they wouldn't release them until some new monitors got released.

Preach brother. That was a long 4 months.

shankly1985 · 21 May 2015 at 13:07

LoadsaMoney said:
What about them holding their drivers and Xfire profiles back for nigh on 4 months, as they wouldn't release them until some new monitors got released.

Be a waste of time them saying that wasn't the reason, it was our Freesync driver, when everyone knows it was, as how else could they release a GTA driver, a Freesync fixes driver, and have a driver incoming for the Witcher 3 and Project Cars now, when they are still working on their Freesync drivers, i'll tell you why, as those monitors are out now, thats bloody why!.

And what Profiles was them games for?? I would like you too list them.

eyetrip · 21 May 2015 at 13:07

shankly1985 said:
Has anyone just stepped back and looked at all this in another way? Think back over all these games that AMD have had too take more time in releasing a driver.. What do they all have in common?? GameWorks! Its clear that AMD are spending more time trying to work around getting more performance from the driver in these titles..

Some you just need to bloody chill the hell out! I feel the pointing finger at AMD for these drivers isn't only there fault...

And no am not saying AMD is perfect! far from it.. Am getting abit worried over Crossfire FreeSync! I feel this should been sorted along time ago.

My little Rant! Don't agree I don't care! But just step back and look around whats happened in the past months and games that have released.

No, I don't think it's Nvidias fault that AMD don't release drivers...

Ayahuasca · 21 May 2015 at 13:11

Shanks AMD don't need another PR guy like Matt, you need to stop trying

People play different games to you, just because your experience is fine doesn't mean it's like that for everyone.

shankly1985 · 21 May 2015 at 13:12

eyetrip said:
No, I don't think it's Nvidias fault that AMD don't release drivers...

Didn't say it was Nvidia fault? See jumping the gun once again.. What am saying is AMD might need more time in these GameWorks title to get more performance from there driver set for each these games.. Not only that but also have issue too fix with the devs like FC4 and Dying Light both needed not only drivers but game patches to fix issue...

So there is two titles that we haven't just been waiting on AMD but also the DEvs to fix.

They is a bigger picture here and everyone is taking the easy option..

shankly1985 · 21 May 2015 at 13:13

Ayahuasca said:
Shanks AMD don't need another PR guy like Matt, you need to stop trying

People play different games to you, just because your experience is fine doesn't mean it's like that for everyone.

Happy with my job thanks

I didn't say everyone is but am just trying to open up a wider picture here! This isn't only AMD at fault here and people need to understand this.

eyetrip · 21 May 2015 at 13:18

All I know is, Shankly, of my three cards, the only one thats really gotten some action is the primary card.

Three games that were the exception - Dragon Age, BF4, Hawken.

I put off FC4, Dying Light, ACreed, and now Witcher 3.

And I am still waiting on Elite.

I think Assetto Corsa requires selecting another games profile (forgotten which now), and didn't people have issues with Total War?

And I do't attempt to play every game, so there probably others.

Ayahuasca · 21 May 2015 at 13:19

shankly1985 said:
I didn't say everyone is but am just trying to open up a wider picture here! This isn't only AMD at fault here and people need to understand this.

Not really as some of the titles people still don't have profiles for aren't even gameworks, AMD need to start taking some responsibility.

There's far too many user fixes that people have to do as well to get some games running properly which puts people off buying.

LoadsaMoney · 21 May 2015 at 13:29

Project Cars, didn't the devs say AMDs last contact with them was months and months ago, and that it was running great on their cards on older drivers, so its an AMD prob the terrible performance now ?

Goose · 21 May 2015 at 13:46

Would anyone (AMDMatt?) mind just having a quick read of this thread of mine (it's not tl:dr)?

Thanks

lovelyhead · 21 May 2015 at 13:53

shankly1985 said:
Has anyone just stepped back and looked at all this in another way? Think back over all these games that AMD have had too take more time in releasing a driver.. What do they all have in common?? GameWorks!

Project Cars isn't a Gameworks title.

BS Dave · 21 May 2015 at 14:12

tommybhoy said:
******* bargain that is.

I saw you sold your 290s Tommy what are you going to next or would that be telling?

BuzzLloydyear · 21 May 2015 at 14:19

win8.1 said:
Amd really haven't a hope with Nvidia giving certain game Dev's. money in order to have the best performance on their hardware and a lot of people seem to reward these business tactics because they want the best peformance immediately and obviously do not care whether Nvidia hobble Amd's hardware to do this. Of course if Nvidia was not allowed to get away with these tactics Amd would be giving the same performance as Nvidia but for far less money. If Nvidia end up putting Amd out of business because so many don't care how Nvidia give them performance and hobble Amd hardware I dread to think how much more extortionate their cards will be each new gen. and maybe even extortionate without as large jump in performance each gen.

I wouldn't call it rewarding, when AMD's fight against it consists of shouting on twitter and talking to random hardware journalists about it. If there truly is dodgy tactics in play, make an official complaint about it. Shouting on twitter does nothing but makes people think that the only answer is to go Nvidia.

I believe AMD can turn this slump around, and I do think it's just that. There can be a variety of reasons for it. I won't give up on them yet, may give up on Crossfire as this is a rather frustrating experience, but I won't give up on AMD so fast on a whole.

Taking pot shots at Nvidia on Twitter is certainly not solving any of the problems though. Just gives off the impression that they are fresh out of idea's and don't know how to handle it.

Type_R · 21 May 2015 at 14:38

To be fair...no dev is going to put nvidia advertising in their game free of charge! Yes in Project cars the devs deny having taken any money for it, but maybe it wasn't money that they got....maybe they got something a lot more financially rewarding than that...such as access to hardware/free nvidia cards to test on..etc!

LtMatt · 21 May 2015 at 14:48

Ayahuasca said:
So AMD paid EA/dice to use Mantle then?

Nope, that was to bundle their game (Battlefield 4) with our 290X graphics cards when we launched Hawaii back in October 2013.

Can you tell us how much they paid for you to use Mantle?

Johan Andersson said:
They wouldn't have to pay us anything to use it, I've been pitching these ideas to any vendor for years

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7437/tim-sweeney-johan-andersson-john-carmack-nv-montreal-live-blog

We listened, we created Mantle.

Rilot · 21 May 2015 at 14:50

Keep it on topic guys. Leave the conspiracy theories to another forum.

LoadsaMoney · 21 May 2015 at 14:50

Gameworks is in GTA V, Dying Light, Watch Dogs etc..., how come AMDs cards are not getting crippled in those, Watch Dogs, its faster on the 290 than the 780 Ti, Dying light maxed out, runs 70+ for me, GTA V, just about maxed (only have the grass on High instead of Ultra, and the MSAA off, everything else on/maxed), it runs bloody superb, 60+, what the hell is going on, is my 290X faulty for giving superb performance in GW titles, do i have to RMA ??

Ayahuasca · 21 May 2015 at 14:53

AMDMatt said:
Nope, that was to bundle their game (Battlefield 4) with our 290X graphics cards when we launched Hawaii back in October 2013.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7437/tim-sweeney-johan-andersson-john-carmack-nv-montreal-live-blog

We listened, we created Mantle.

Which is the answer I expected and devs for gameworks titles have said they didn't receive money to use gameworks either.

As said it's just conspiracy theories people like to throw around