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The AMD Driver Thread

I'm pretty laid back in general with all this PC hardware stuff. I have a top gpu from both camps and see the good / bad in drivers on each. The thing is though... NVidia constantly has a driver out. Even if it had a bug or two, they have a hotfix within hours or a day at most it seems. Pretty damn impressive. On the flip side if I don't worry about xfire I've noticed I have less driver issues with my AMD card/s. Like in W3 currently, the game runs beautifully on my 290 oc'd at 1175mhz. I mean absolutely great! I would love to have xfire working but the game is great even at 50fps maxed out 1440p!!! No stutters!

Someone brought up one big caveat though... When I build a PC for someone I almost always put in an Nvidia gpu simply because it's EASIER. They can go through a couple clicks and have the game optimized for them and not have to worry about it. A new driver comes out and it lets them know and they can click and be on their way. If they have a good understanding of Windows OS and aren't just wanting to turn on and game then I'll put in a 290x for sure.

After all that though if AMD doesn't start stepping up their game quick things are going to be very bleak in their future. 980ti is basically the TX but cheaper and Fiji is supposedly going to cost MORE and be about the same results maybe a little better?

Things seem odd for sure.
 
shankly1985 said:
Not at all, perfectly happy with my job thanks.
What I am doing is opening up a bigger picture that all you keep some how missing..

Read back couple pages from what I mean.. Before you start thinking am just defending amd for fanboy crap am not i know amd isn't perfect and either is nvidia..
Already countless reports of sli stutter for users, black screening on Witcher 3 so don't think jumping over, Is going to be all this and that..

elite dangerous is the only game I can think off amd maybe could done better to support with Crossfire but there again we don't know for sure why crossfire stopped working in that game.

All other games this past couple months we been hit hard with Gameworks, it's clear that amd is having issues providing working drivers within these titles. Either the game devs need to patch after release or amd need more time sorting out Gameworks issues..

Open your eyes people.
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Telling your customers that gameworks is the issue isn't going to make them feel better, like I said previously it will drive some of them to the competition. Most people don't care what the issue is, they just want the hardware they paid for to work well on release of new games. Some of these single player titles can be completed by the time drivers arrive and for some it means doing so with a sub par experience (settings turned down, stutter or crashes).

Single card performance in Witcher 3 is fine so blaming gameworks for those waiting on crossfire profiles seems a bit of an excuse.
 
Matson said:
Whats a shame is many of us will have probably completed the Witcher 3 by the time the driver for it comes available lol.
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THIS... Even if it is Gameworks or whatever holding them back it doesn't matter. I finished FC4 and Dying Light before xfire was working. Way before! The games ran great on single gpu, but I have the horsepower for a reason. I never complained about it and still enjoyed the games but this is a serious detail.

What I don't get is everyone knows well before the release of the game whether it's gameworks or not. It's not like the week it's released we're all like WHAT?? ARE YOU SERIOUS? AMD knows this and yet they still just wait until after the game is released and people are complaining to even mention anything let alone do anything.
 
Poneros said:
You misunderstand. I'm not simply saying Nvidia users have problems in general. I'm saying that the implementation of Gameworks in games hurts not only AMD (for the obvious reasons) but also Nvidia users who don't auto-upgrade their GPU because the pre-900 GPUs are seeing much lower performance in those games than in non-gameworks titles regardless of whether you use gameworks features or not.

So, unless you plan to buy a new Nvidia GPU each time it launches then you will simply hurt yourself more by going Nvidia now than by sticking with AMD. Not to mention that if they gain more marketshare nothing's preventing them from not only messing with older cards (whether its due to willful tampering or just negligence) but also with lower-priced ones.
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Sorry I think you misunderstand ME, after these past few years of being a crossfire user I'm more than willing to change to buying Green every year. It's not that I want to, it's that I've been made too.

Ultimately in the long term if we all switch to Green, yes It's only going to end in tears, but I've been in tears for years already so what do I have to loose. I'm now prepared to spend over the odds for SLI. AMD made me do this, are they going to make my games start working in crossfire...."Yeh when we're ready".

Guess what "I'm not ready to wait". If those leaks are true about the 980ti being released before the 390X/Whateveritscalled. It's got to be the end of days for the GPU division.
 
shankly1985 said:
It was coming though, then got delayed for more testing I was told by him. Gameworks in pCARS and Witcher 3 are to blame for the delay..
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It will be because of Freesync, since when has a couple of games thwarted AMD from releasing drivers? it sounds to me like they are having serious issue with Freesync on multi-GPU systems. GameWorks just offers a convenient excuse for them and shifts blame as usual.
 
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GameWorks is the reason they need longer to test the driver?

Did they not know GameWorks was in the game when they said the driver would be out this week? Did it sneak up on them?
Surely they knew at the time how long it would take? Seems a pretty bad idea to be announcing it publicly even you're not pretty darn sure.

Could this whole thing have been planned by AMD so they can play the victim again and get the sympathy vote?

I don't imagine Nvidia are going to stop sponsoring games or pushing GameWorks, so does this mean that we won't be getting crossfire drivers for any of these games for months?

Don't get me wrong either, I like AMDMatt, but it does seem like AMD Vendor Reps are just walking adverts. The only information they seem to be able to give us is information we already know or could find somewhere else. They can't seem to tell us anything new. Ever.
I'm sure it's not the reps but order that come down from the higher-ups, but times like now, when we're wondering where the new driver is or when we'll see an Elite crossfire profile they seem to be on holiday.
 
"A week ago, Ian Bell from Project Cars developer Slightly Mad, said: "We’re reaching out to AMD with all of our efforts. We’ve provided them 20 keys. They were invited to work with us for years. Looking through company mails the last I can see AMD talked to us was October of last year.”

We all know this isn't new news, but this was the final FINAL nail in the coffin for me. Why should anyone pay top dollar for a GPU with no support?
 
McShave said:
"A week ago, Ian Bell from Project Cars developer Slightly Mad, said: "We’re reaching out to AMD with all of our efforts. We’ve provided them 20 keys. They were invited to work with us for years. Looking through company mails the last I can see AMD talked to us was October of last year.”

We all know this isn't new news, but this was the final FINAL nail in the coffin for me. Why should anyone pay top dollar for a GPU with no support?
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and they are going to do a new higher tiered, higher priced cards (a premium brand), they are having an absolute laugh!
 
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shankly1985 said:
Not at all, perfectly happy with my job thanks.
What I am doing is opening up a bigger picture that all you keep some how missing..

Read back couple pages from what I mean.. Before you start thinking am just defending amd for fanboy crap am not i know amd isn't perfect and either is nvidia..
Already countless reports of sli stutter for users, black screening on Witcher 3 so don't think jumping over, Is going to be all this and that..

elite dangerous is the only game I can think off amd maybe could done better to support with Crossfire but there again we don't know for sure why crossfire stopped working in that game.

All other games this past couple months we been hit hard with Gameworks, it's clear that amd is having issues providing working drivers within these titles. Either the game devs need to patch after release or amd need more time sorting out Gameworks issues..

Open your eyes people.
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I don't care what issues AMD are having. Quite frankly as a customer it's not my problem.

If you can't provide working drivers for top tier games that you have known were coming for years, then get out of the GPU market.

Was the Witcher 3 a complete surprise for them?

Did they not have the game in advance and a Dev team working on creating and testing a driver?

No apologies from AMD. Just a "tough ****", you will have it when you have it mentality.

Completely unacceptable. I forked out a fortune on this card, and they quite simply spit in your face.

Well, next time i will vote with my wallet.
 
Still no drivers. Lol. Poor crossfire users. I feel for you. AMD and premium just don't seem to go together of late.

AMD should let Matt at least give us some inside info. Political answers like he had to give in his last post are a little insulting.

Those new screen shots of the Radeon R10 Zeus do like very nice though. £999 bargain really.
 
Gerard said:
Have to agree, its like politicians and trying to get a direct yes or no answer, they always skip around the issue and never really answer it. Not matts fault obviously but if all we can get is vague "skip around the issue" responses then whats the point?
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I 100% agree with your view. Here is the bad news for AMD. They are teaching their most valuable customers/users/influencers not to trust in them and in fact making them think twice. Just vote with your wallet and the market will take care of the rest. ;)
 
We need a strong AMD to return to sensible GPU pricing, Nvidia is charging nearly a grand for their flagship which would be a 980Ti and priced accordingly if AMD had a decent offering on the table.
 
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