Its all in German but i can see the 15.5 Beta Driver listed in the slide.
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Its all in German but i can see the 15.5 Beta Driver listed in the slide.
Humbug, when you did your own bioshock tests, are you sure you weren't cpu bound?
15.15 Has lower overhead compared to 15.6 betas. On win7 I get 1.25M DX11 ST on 15.15 leaked, and 0.95M on 15.6 betas.
I don't think that small tesselation boost the drivers give has that big difference in fps, compared to what lover overhead gives.
15.15 Has lower overhead compared to 15.6 betas. On win7 I get 1.25M DX11 ST on 15.15 leaked, and 0.95M on 15.6 betas.
I don't think that small tesselation boost the drivers give has that big difference in fps, compared to what lover overhead gives.
Yes and i am using the latest drivers on win10. 15.15 has a bit lower cpu overhead on shader compiler for amd gpus. Still only on one thread. 15.x on win10 has even better cpu overhead.
Because you are using Win 10 ^^^^ its a different OS proven to be higher on GPU performance.
Guru3D used the same 15.15 Driver i did for the 290X, they come up with the same results.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_390x_gaming_8g_oc_review,12.html
So, are my results wrong? maybe. are Guru3D's results then also wrong, a concordance?
Or is PCgames wrong?
Guru3D used the same 15.15 Driver i did for the 290X, they come up with the same results.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_390x_gaming_8g_oc_review,12.html
So, are my results wrong? maybe. are Guru3D's results then also wrong, a concordance?
Or is PCgames wrong?
Humbug you dont compare apples to apples. This is your problem. Thats why your results are a bogus. First you are using a 9590. Second you can only compare results from the same machine. Third with tessmark you saw an increase on tesselation performance with the new drivers on your 290x. You cant prove that grenada is anything more than a hawaii with an overclock and good drivers. Most changes are on the cooler and the bios. They have better power management and they use different memories models.
Nano is so sexy, I have to have one.
not the sexiest thing in that video! ><
some tough questions answered
hope the adapter comes around intime for the nano tho that would be perfect
Umm I can't see mention where they say they used modded drivers for 290x. Only states they used 15.15 for 390x.
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It's driving me crazy! Only happens at 60hz 4k, 30hz 4k is fine, I'm not sure what test mode is bud
If you are suggesting that a 15% tessellation performance increase results in a 30% FPS increase in overall game performance you would be barking mad.
Is that what you call Apples to Apples?
For a start a tessellation engine is as dependent on hardware as much if not more than software, it is not just software based, the software is an API, so you can't increase its throughput by significant margins through software.
Tessellation has a tiny footprint on overall game performance, you need a vast difference in Tessellation before you see it in action.
15% amounts to nothing as part of the end result, 200% or 400% will, <400% is the difference in the GNC1.2 and 1.1 architectures.
You specifically talked about tess performance. OK you want more proofs?
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/06/18/msi_r9_390x_gaming_8g_video_card_review/9
Man you just link benches with the 290x using 15.5 betas vs 390x which is an oced 290x and using 15.15.
You have just given me link to slides that have nothing to do with Tessellation, if the games aren't tessellation bound they will be the same.
Did you miss the part where it was mentioned that 15.15 has 30% (win7) better drawcall performance over 15.6 drivers. So that 30% fps difference doesn't come only from improved tesselation and higher clocks.
I agree, tesselation doesn't have that big factor when it's improved that little. And you can always test how much better performance you get when you limit tesselation factors from ccc.
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SO according to your logic they just changed the tesselation engine of hawaii to a tonga one. Yeah ,nope.
The changes on the drivers are not just the tesselation increase. They fixed their pipeline to work more efficiently.
For example bioshock infinite use a custom version of unreal engine 3 with x16 tesselation and x32 on the character models. Its not in any way tesselation hog game. The real problem with this game was the DDOF. And they fixed it in their pipeline
16 and 32 is high, normal is 8 ^^^^
"Did you miss the part where it was mentioned that 15.15 has 30% (win7) better drawcall performance"
No i didn't miss it, absolutely nothing to do with the GPU architecture.
If you use 15.15 you will see better DrawCall performance, it actually proves that what ever CPU bottleneck i may have had in my BioShock Infinite tests it had little effect. as i used 15.15 and should have seen better performance from the CPU.
People will see a performance improvement with 15.15. but the performance difference between the R9 300 and 200 is the difference in the GPU. its the same difference between the 285 and the 280
"Did you miss the part where it was mentioned that 15.15 has 30% (win7) better drawcall performance"
No i didn't miss it, absolutely nothing to do with the GPU architecture.
If you use 15.15 you will see better DrawCall performance, it actually proves that what ever CPU bottleneck i may have had in my BioShock Infinite tests it had little effect. as i used 15.15 and should have seen better performance from the CPU.
People will see a performance improvement with 15.15. but the performance difference between the R9 300 and 200 is the difference in the GPU. its the same difference between the 285 and the 280
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humbug you are a few days behind, i'll give you the doubt because you were on holiday from here due to being a nughty boy.
But me and Nutella discussed this and there are other threads on ocuk in relation to this.
There was Greebo too in this thread who was on it way befoe you.
post 108 = http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18677138&page=4
Grenada is simply a tweaked refreshed Hawaii. Nothing more.
It's not a respin with gcn 1.2 otherwise we would see an updated uvd engine.
Also if it was tonga then how coul people put a bios from a 390 onto the 290.
It's simply taking the r9 290x 8gb, and using that for a 2560,2816 390/390x.
They've then played around with internal timings/memory timings and put a bios string on so the recent wonder drivers don't support a 290, they've played with the clocks speeds, but mostly it comes from the drivers.
But me and Nutella discussed this and there are other threads on ocuk in relation to this.
There was Greebo too in this thread who was on it way befoe you.
post 108 = http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18677138&page=4
Grenada is simply a tweaked refreshed Hawaii. Nothing more.
It's not a respin with gcn 1.2 otherwise we would see an updated uvd engine.
Also if it was tonga then how coul people put a bios from a 390 onto the 290.
It's simply taking the r9 290x 8gb, and using that for a 2560,2816 390/390x.
They've then played around with internal timings/memory timings and put a bios string on so the recent wonder drivers don't support a 290, they've played with the clocks speeds, but mostly it comes from the drivers.
I don't have any of those Nvidia games, those games have a DrawCall problem, if they are using 15.15 on a 290X they will see an improvements in performance as that driver has better overheads.
But none of that would have anything to do with the GPU its self.
What i did was take a game and an application to address the Tessellation specifically. those are my results, take them or leave them.