The AMD Driver Thread

nashathedog · 3 Feb 2016 at 16:59

shankly1985 said:
Tomb raider running fine here. Make sure guys you not running very high textures on a 4gb card.

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nashathedog · 3 Feb 2016 at 17:03

ICDP said:
I'm running at 4K on a single Fury Non-X and am only getting stutters at the start of a missionduring loading. FPS is sitting around 40 with Freesync and is very playable to me in the Soviet Installation level (subjective of course).

That's not where the problem is though, It builds up gradually.

When your not maxing everything the usage isn't overly high and to manage 4k at 40 fps you're not maxing it. My Fury Tri-x manages 40-60 fps at 1440 with high settings and 2x AF it takes 45 minutes or so for the ram to become an issue and then it's like pressing a button where it goes all jiggery and the only option is too stop the game and start again.

meldarthx · 3 Feb 2016 at 17:39

nashathedog said:
That's not where the problem is though, It builds up gradually.

When your not maxing everything the usage isn't overly high and to manage 4k at 40 fps you're not maxing it. My Fury Tri-x manages 40-60 fps at 1440 with high settings and 2x AF it takes 45 minutes or so for the ram to become an issue and then it's like pressing a button where it goes all jiggery and the only option is too stop the game and start again.

that's a memory leak in the game Nash; nothing to do with drivers. We need a patch CD to fix that.

New Drivers are smoother in siberia; but also getting crashes sooner. Tested other games with new driver and Elder Scrolls Online is fine - Elite 64.exe crashes; but did before; 32.exe is solid now. Fallout 4 *but not sure if I've got 1.3 patch applied* - crashes; but did before

Several other games are fine. So we come back to Tomb Raider really needs a patch or two to sort it.

BluD · 3 Feb 2016 at 17:39

TonyTurbo78 said:
I've heard it's not the best, I can't tell I've not got the game.

lol, the crossfire profile works fine bud.

TonyTurbo78 · 3 Feb 2016 at 19:35

Cool, been reading the forums over at guru3d, I got the impression scaling was poor and there are black screen problems when running mgpu.

Nexus18 · 3 Feb 2016 at 21:15

Well I have played a fair bit of tomb raider now and honestly, I am disappointed with the performance, regardless of settings, overall FPS varies massively on my pc, I could look in one area and I get about 33 fps, turn to another similar area and get 53fps. My clocks, gpu usage (90+%) are all constant, cpu usage is still stupidly low.

And this area is awful for stutter, VRAM and memory usage was low so it wasn't that, which is odd as that was between 1-2 hours of gameplay time...

Not sure if it is the game that needs patching or an AMD driver update. Going to try and hold of playing any more till it is sorted, shame

I wish more game companies used the frostbite engine, it looks so damn good and performs superbly on all hardware....

Brizzles · 3 Feb 2016 at 21:21

Nexus18 said:
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Have you got 'enable full screen exclusive' ( < similar ) enabled ?

Removed all stutter for me with new drivers

Nexus18 · 3 Feb 2016 at 21:23

Yup I've enabled that.

Dave2150 · 4 Feb 2016 at 00:57

Nexus18 said:
Well I have played a fair bit of tomb raider now and honestly, I am disappointed with the performance, regardless of settings, overall FPS varies massively on my pc, I could look in one area and I get about 33 fps, turn to another similar area and get 53fps. My clocks, gpu usage (90+%) are all constant, cpu usage is still stupidly low.

And this area is awful for stutter, VRAM and memory usage was low so it wasn't that, which is odd as that was between 1-2 hours of gameplay time...

Not sure if it is the game that needs patching or an AMD driver update. Going to try and hold of playing any more till it is sorted, shame

I wish more game companies used the frostbite engine, it looks so damn good and performs superbly on all hardware....

Your performance will obviously be bad, as your using an ancient CPU coupled with a GPU with only 4GB of RAM.

Either upgrade CPU, lower textures so they fit in your 4GB or don't.

drunkenmaster · 4 Feb 2016 at 01:11

Seems to be a huge problem with performance on the Windows 10 store version. It's not running exclusive fullscreen, only borderless windowed which for AMD is often a problem(not used Nvidia in long enough that I don't know if fullscreen is better for them as well).

My performance is all over the freaking place with xfire. Windows 10 store also preventing me accessing the folder with the game in which means no direct running outside of the method they give you, no chance to add command lines to the .exe .

This is on 2x 290 and a 5820k at 4.2Ghz, really the only game I'm having massive trouble with performance wise. It's completely unplayable as it is today. Not being allowed to mess around with the game itself via the folder is laughable as is removing exclusive fullscreen from the store version with zero indication that was done when buying it. Screw ever buying from Windows 10 store again.

Nexus18 · 4 Feb 2016 at 01:59

Dave2150 said:
Your performance will obviously be bad, as your using an ancient CPU coupled with a GPU with only 4GB of RAM.

Either upgrade CPU, lower textures so they fit in your 4GB or don't.

Look at the last page of this thread:

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18715630&page=11

Look at the CPU usage.... It isn't near full load, certainly nowhere near what I see with pretty much every other game.

I have the textures set to high and as you can see from the screenshots too, my vram and ram is hardly being maxed.

Even with everything on low/off, the fps are still crap considering that I have no problems holding more or less a constant 60fps in every other game with only a couple of settings dropped a notch or 2 down.

shankly1985 · 4 Feb 2016 at 03:23

Nexus18 said:
Look at the last page of this thread:

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18715630&page=11

Look at the CPU usage.... It isn't near full load, certainly nowhere near what I see with pretty much every other game.

I have the textures set to high and as you can see from the screenshots too, my vram and ram is hardly being maxed.

Even with everything on low/off, the fps are still crap considering that I have no problems holding more or less a constant 60fps in every other game with only a couple of settings dropped a notch or 2 down.

I might be wrong here but from how I understand it even though you might not be using all your CPU usages you can still be CPU bottlenecked by how fast the CPU cores can feed the GPU etc

A slow Core/thread speed can and will slow down how much information you can pass to and from the GPU and then you have RAM speed into the mix.

nashathedog · 4 Feb 2016 at 10:29

drunkenmaster said:
Seems to be a huge problem with performance on the Windows 10 store version. It's not running exclusive fullscreen, only borderless windowed which for AMD is often a problem(not used Nvidia in long enough that I don't know if fullscreen is better for them as well).

My performance is all over the freaking place with xfire. Windows 10 store also preventing me accessing the folder with the game in which means no direct running outside of the method they give you, no chance to add command lines to the .exe .

This is on 2x 290 and a 5820k at 4.2Ghz, really the only game I'm having massive trouble with performance wise. It's completely unplayable as it is today. Not being allowed to mess around with the game itself via the folder is laughable as is removing exclusive fullscreen from the store version with zero indication that was done when buying it. Screw ever buying from Windows 10 store again.

Why did you buy from them?

Nexus18 · 4 Feb 2016 at 11:07

shankly1985 said:
I might be wrong here but from how I understand it even though you might not be using all your CPU usages you can still be CPU bottlenecked by how fast the CPU cores can feed the GPU etc

A slow Core/thread speed can and will slow down how much information you can pass to and from the GPU and then you have RAM speed into the mix.

Possibly...

I still don't get why my cpu usage for each core is so low in comparison to every other game though

Found a couple of CPU benchmarks for the game:

http://www.techspot.com/review/1128-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-benchmarks/page5.html

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_page..._graphics_performance_benchmark_review,9.html

Mauller · 4 Feb 2016 at 11:12

nashathedog said:
Why did you buy from them?

The game was going far cheaper on windows store than elsewhere.

Matson · 4 Feb 2016 at 12:17

So regarding Tomb raider. I was wondering why I could run the first parts of the game with very high textures and not get any stuttering but later on I had a lot of stuttering unless I dropped textures to high. Turns out I only get that stuttering on a 290 when I use crossfire mode but if I run single card mode I can have textures at very high and its fine. Yes I don't get as much fps as crossfire but I can run textures at very high and theres no stuttering for me.

nashathedog · 4 Feb 2016 at 12:32

Mauller said:
The game was going far cheaper on windows store than elsewhere.

How much?
It was 25 quid from Kinguin which I thought was the cheapest mind you I prefer to get my games from as few sources and I'm already forced to use Steam, Origin and U-play so I'd rather not add even more download sites (plus I have GOG).

Matson said:
So regarding Tomb raider. I was wondering why I could run the first parts of the game with very high textures and not get any stuttering but later on I had a lot of stuttering unless I dropped textures to high. Turns out I only get that stuttering on a 290 when I use crossfire mode but if I run single card mode I can have textures at very high and its fine. Yes I don't get as much fps as crossfire but I can run textures at very high and theres no stuttering for me.

Visually it doesn't make much of a difference either does it.

Blackjack Davy · 4 Feb 2016 at 12:43

Anyone else having trouble with Freesync? The recent Crimsons havn't been working right and the latest Beta seems to have broken it completely in Skyrim. Screen is tearing right left and centre.

All is fine if turn on Vsync but whats the point of having a freesync monitor if I have to enable Vsync? :confused:

AMD windmill test still states all is ok though? The last working version was the 15.11.1 CCC beta. Works fine with that but more recent drivers have broken it.

edit: yes I have enabled Freesync in the settings.

shankly1985 · 4 Feb 2016 at 13:00

Everything seems fine here. Have you tried setting up a profile for that game and enabling FRTC and set a FPS within the freesync range?

And FYI Vsync when enabled with Freesync isn't the same has Vsync alone so long you within the Freesync range. Freesync will remove all Vsync Stutter and input lag, But if you drop outside the Freesync range you then back to normal Vsync.

muziqaz · 4 Feb 2016 at 13:06

shankly1985 said:
Everything seems fine here. Have you tried setting up a profile for that game and enabling FRTC and set a FPS within the freesync range?

And FYI Vsync when enabled with Freesync isn't the same has Vsync alone so long you within the Freesync range. Freesync will remove all Vsync Stutter and input lag, But if you drop outside the Freesync range you then back to normal Vsync.

So in order to have freesync working you have to enable V-Sync in game as well?

P.S. I don't have freesync monitor, so I am curious