The AMD Driver Thread

[Nexus18]

One thing worth pointing out, people with issues post on sites, making it seem like it much worse than it really is.
How meny users out there like me with out any issues vs users having problems?

I even use wattman and not had a single crash from it. Matter of a fact I use everything the Crimson drivers even offer.

True but you have to remember, reddit subs like that generally only ever contain customers/fanboys and looking at other forums, there are a lot of people mentioning the same problems.

Again, not saying that everyone will have issues but I think we can agree that 17.x.x/relive definitely isn't as bug free/stable as pre-17.x.x drivers.

Assuming that the majority have got similar issues.... I wonder if this is the price to be paid for AMD releasing day 1 and even pre-day 1 drivers again (forgetting about upcoming vega cards and the team prioritizing the drivers for those cards....), if so..... I would much rather go back to that way, for some reason, people on here and other forums seem to think that with every new game released, that there HAS to be as GPU driver update too, otherwise the game is riddled with bugs/performance issues or something....

Hopefully VEGA is great and runs like a champ for temps + fan noise as it means that I could get rid of msi afterburner + rivatuner and as a result possibly less likely to encounter any problems.

 

[shankly1985]

True but you have to remember, reddit subs like that generally only ever contain customers/fanboys and looking at other forums, there are a lot of people mentioning the same problems.

Again, not saying that everyone will have issues but I think we can agree that 17.x.x/relive definitely isn't as bug free/stable as pre-17.x.x drivers.

Assuming that the majority have got similar issues.... I wonder if this is the price to be paid for AMD releasing day 1 and even pre-day 1 drivers again (forgetting about upcoming vega cards and the team prioritizing the drivers for those cards....), if so..... I would much rather go back to that way, for some reason, people on here and other forums seem to think that with every new game released, that there HAS to be as GPU driver update too, otherwise the game is riddled with bugs/performance issues or something....

Hopefully VEGA is great and runs like a champ for temps + fan noise as it means that I could get rid of msi afterburner + rivatuner and as a result possibly less likely to encounter any problems.

You missed my edit.
I know drivers from anything out there are never perfect you will always have users having issues. All am pointing out is reporting things like this just creates miss information for other users that have not yet updated. For example @LoadsaMoney he hasn't updated for months on the believe his PC will go up in smoke.

Just look at the Nvidia forums! If I went installing a new driver based on just the first page from that site I would be 100% expecting problems lol But the truth of the matter is I most probably be issue free.
But it does create that sense of will this be ok
Should I update?
They having issues so I should leave these alone etc

See my point.

 

[Nexus18]

You missed my edit.
I know drivers from anything out there are never perfect you will always have users having issues. All am pointing out is reporting things like this just creates miss information for other users that have not yet updated. For example @LoadsaMoney he hasn't updated for months on the believe his PC will go up in smoke.

Just look at the Nvidia forums! If I went installing a new driver based on just the first page from that site I would be 100% expecting problems lol But the truth of the matter is I most probably be issue free.
But it does create that sense of will this be ok
Should I update?
They having issues so I should leave these alone etc

See my point.

Yup but that's the thing, I have never seen as much bad feedback for the 16.x.x drivers as I have with the 17.x.x drivers.....

I've tried every 17.x.x driver and nothing but issues, be it games crashing, blue screens or the performance just being crap i.e. stuttery, tried DDU, tried them on the creators update, tried without msi AB + RT etc. etc. Where as 16.11.5, perfection.... That also seems to be the driver, which people keep rolling back too.

No doubt that nvidia aren't any better either, I would say that for stability/bug free experience, theirs are even worse.

Like I said, I think vega is AMD drivers team main priority now, that and because of people moaning about not getting drivers pre-day 1/day 1 for game releases, AMD have gone back to the quick releases with less testing. Matt even said that after the omega release and their new take on driver release schedule, that the bug reports where at an all time low and this was when driver updates were very slow.

@AMDMatt

Would it be possible to have wattman as a separate install for amd drivers, like the relive recording feature?

 

[DragonQ]

There's definitely something screwy about their drivers.
Tried several versions over the last month or so.
I'd had it fine for some time, but then I started getting random reboots/white static screen-reboots.
Had thought mobo or psu was on its way out, tried all sorts. Even bought a brand new psu to no avail.
Turns out it's possibly something to do with Wattman.

Gone through several versions of drivers & recently reverted to 17.3.3 in last couple of days & not had a single crash nor reboot.

Unsurprising, I'd always be wary of jumping major driver versions (e.g. 16 to 17) especially with older cards.

 

[Fishbait]

Unsurprising, I'd always be wary of jumping major driver versions (e.g. 16 to 17) especially with older cards.

That's the part that really threw me. It's an RX480 (GTR several other initials) & whilst it worked for a week or two on newer drivers, it just randomly stopped.
Almost tore hair out trying to figure out why, but I'm sure it's down to Wattman.
Ah welp, at least it's working now

 

[UTmaniac]

Are other 390 owners having their pc turn off more times than not, when the Windows 10 logo appears?

How about the Windows 10 logo shows but the animated circle never shows, requiring a reset?

 

[shankly1985]

Are other 390 owners having their pc turn off more times than not, when the Windows 10 logo appears?

How about the Windows 10 logo shows but the animated circle never shows, requiring a reset?

And what makes you believe this is a AMD driver issue? Sounds like something else is going on tbh
Can you boot into safe mode? Does it happen if you remove the AMD driver? Download DDU and run in safe mode.
If all else fails
I would try a system restore point or better a window 10 refresh but keeping files.

 

[UTmaniac]

And what makes you believe this is a AMD driver issue? Sounds like something else is going on tbh
Can you boot into safe mode? Does it happen if you remove the AMD driver? Download DDU and run in safe mode.
If all else fails
I would try a system restore point or better a window 10 refresh but keeping files.

Because there is a known issue with some 390s having issues with Wattman in recent driver releases, most times when I get to desktop I have a message about Wattman having recovered from a serious error and has been reset to defaults (or something along those lines).

I have a Sapphire 390 Nitro.

 

[Nexus18]

^^

I also get that all the time ("Wattman having recovered from a serious error") with my 290 on the 17.x.x/relive drivers....

 

[shankly1985]

I use wattman for overclocking the core and fan control, worked perfectly fine. I never installed any other overclocking software in ages.

Because there is a known issue with some 390s having issues with Wattman in recent driver releases, most times when I get to desktop I have a message about Wattman having recovered from a serious error and has been reset to defaults (or something along those lines).

I have a Sapphire 390 Nitro.

Have you ever had the booting issue when wattman isn't running?

 

[Phixsator]

I use wattman for overclocking the core and fan control, worked perfectly fine. I never installed any other overclocking software in ages.
Have you ever had the booting issue when wattman isn't running?

I really do not like wattman for fan control. Other than that its been good enough and certainly preferable to having even more programs running in the background.

On a sidenote: Those of you running asus strix versions of the rx cards should consider replacing the thermal paste. I just did that and now the cooler actually performs as it should. Ive seen a huge drop in temps and can maintain a 60-65c load temp with only 35ish% fan speed. On top of that is an overclock to 1350 on stock volt. Pretty darn sweet. Problem is of course warranty will be going in the toilet but as the card doesnt exactly cost like 300+ quid i think its been worth the risk.

 

[shankly1985]

I really do not like wattman for fan control. Other than that its been good enough and certainly preferable to having even more programs running in the background.

On a sidenote: Those of you running asus strix versions of the rx cards should consider replacing the thermal paste. I just did that and now the cooler actually performs as it should. Ive seen a huge drop in temps and can maintain a 60-65c load temp with only 35ish% fan speed. On top of that is an overclock to 1350 on stock volt. Pretty darn sweet. Problem is of course warranty will be going in the toilet but as the card doesnt exactly cost like 300+ quid i think its been worth the risk.

I only use the fan control too keep my fan speed at 30% because I use water cooler with Corsair H100i but the stock fam is still used for cooling VRM.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

AMD Radeon Crimson ReLive 17.5.1 Driver

Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition 17.5.1 Highlights

Support For

• Prey®
  • Up to 4.7% performance improvement measured on Radeon RX 580 8GB graphics when compared to Radeon Software Crimson ReLive edition 17.4.4(1)
  • Multi GPU profile support

Fixed Issues

• Fixed an issue that may sometimes cause the error message "1603" during uninstall.
• Radeon Settings may sometimes fail to update through the auto Radeon Software update feature.
• Forza Horizon 3™ may experience minor graphics corruption in some game maps
• Sid Meier's Civilization™ VI may experience an application crash when using Hybrid Graphics system configurations and windowed game mode
• Radeon WattMan may fail to apply settings on some Radeon R9 390 series graphics products.
• Added switchable graphics support for Unigine™ Superposition for XConnect and Hybrid Graphics.

Known Issues

• The Display feature in Radeon Settings "GPU Scaling" may not function for some games.
• Radeon Settings may crash on switching Windows® user after toggling AMD CrossFire™ technology mode.
• A small amount of apps may still experience issues with Borderless Fullscreen mode and AMD FreeSync™ technology if other applications or game launchers are running on the primary screen in the background.
• Counter-Strike™: Global Offensive and World of Warcraft™ may experience flickering or performance issues the first time the game is launched on a system boot with AMD FreeSync™ technology enabled. Workarounds include exiting and restarting the application or task switching (alt+tab) in and out of the game to fix the issue.

Known Issues for Radeon ReLive

• The XBOX™ DVR application may cause conflicts with Radeon ReLive, users are suggested to disable XBOX™ DVR if Radeon ReLive is experiencing issues.
• Radeon ReLive may fail to install on AMD APU Family products or experience a system hang or failure to record when using the recording feature on AMD APU Family products.
• Radeon ReLive may intermittently fail to work after performing task switches of applications. A work around is to disable and then enable the feature in Radeon Software.
• Radeon ReLive may exhibit corruption in recordings when capturing Microsoft Office applications.
• Radeon ReLive may experience recording or streaming issues when task switching using ALT+TAB.

• 
  

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download

 

[nashathedog]

Unsurprising, I'd always be wary of jumping major driver versions (e.g. 16 to 17) especially with older cards.

As long as you keep the downloads of older drivers so you have then to re-use if need be it shouldn't be that big an issue.

I've got just about every AMD driver since the beginning of 2013 backed up on an external drive.
I just had a quick look and I've got from 13.3 onwards, which was March 2013, When I moved from a 780 to a 290x.
You can never have too many drivers.

 

[Phixsator]

EDIT: whoops wrong thread

 

[UTmaniac]

Are other 390 owners having their pc turn off more times than not, when the Windows 10 logo appears?

How about the Windows 10 logo shows but the animated circle never shows, requiring a reset?

Installed 17.5.1 and not had booting issue so far, or Wattman error message by clocking... So far!

 

[nashathedog]

Installed 17.5.1 and not had booting issue so far, or Wattman error message by clocking... So far!

I seem to be having the luck of the Irish with drivers lately,
Not that I'm Irish but next door just let her Irish husband back into her life so maybe that counts?

I occasionally get a message on boot that say's Wattman was unable to set up at the requested resolution, but the thing is it's fine,
I had that message this morning which is the first time in a couple of weeks but even though it said it was unable to set up at the requested
resolution it's at the requested resolution so there's nothing out of place or in need of being done.

Other than that and the broken auto-fan setting that happened a couple of times when it was new Wattmans been a solid product for me so far.

I update every time too.

I hope AMD do as well with Vega's drivers as they have with Fiji's for the last couple of years.

 

[Steampunk]

Wattman used to be fine for me, but it's either the last few drivers or the Creators Update, but my Wattman settings now reset on every single boot. I don't understand why we even need that feature, as it works fine when you manually set things up, but the driver refuses to keep it's settings at boot time. Whatever detection it's doing at boot time is obviously very broken for a lot of people.

 

[Nexus18]

Well for some reason, AMD seems to be crashing non stop today....



And this is on the holy grail of drivers, 16.11.5. Not a single thing has changed since yesterday so no idea why all of a sudden this is happening..... Guess it's time to do another driver reinstall....

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

OK, so I'm using 17.4.3 with a 290X.
If I enable Wattman and turn on Chill in Global I would expect it to appear as an option in the profiles for the compatible games, but it's not.
What am I doing wrong, any idea?