ah cheers, thats part of my problem though as there is no manual update button any more and it stopped it's auto ones.
got the latest ones downloaded ill get them installed when im sober, is ddu for uninstalling driver remnants still a good choice?
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ah cheers, thats part of my problem though as there is no manual update button any more and it stopped it's auto ones.
got the latest ones downloaded ill get them installed when im sober, is ddu for uninstalling driver remnants still a good choice?
Tested again with 17.4.4 last night, all of these issues disappeared. Typical FPS is the same, temperatures are back down to mid-60s, and no crazy FPS drops during heavy fights. I found a bunch of people with the same issue on Reddit - some say they only downgraded to 17.7.1 and got the same improvements but I can't really be bothered to try right now so I'll stick with 17.4.4 until they fix it.
I only bother with DDU when downgrading drivers or swapping GPUs. Upgrading drivers normally is fine.
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Does anyone else have an issue with windows remembering where your monitors are with the new drivers. I have my screen stacked one on top of the other, but everytime i shut down my PC it reverts to putting them side by side and i have to manually go in and change them and apply new setting.
An other thing which may be unrelated is that AMD control panel and windows dont agree which screen is number 1 and 2 Window is correct but, AMD control panel switches them.
Both screens connected by DP.
An other thing which may be unrelated is that AMD control panel and windows dont agree which screen is number 1 and 2 Window is correct but, AMD control panel switches them.
Both screens connected by DP.
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Maybe it was just a problem with the Fury X then as I know someone else was having the same issue. After 16.11.5 the game would drop to 8 FPS, go back to normal frame rates for a second and then drop back down to 8 again - this was happening even on the intro and menu pages yet when I rolled back the drivers it was fine again. I'm getting the same behaviour with the Vega drivers - are there any other Vega users that could try The Evil Within to see if it's working?
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Thanks, I knew it wasn't just happening to me.
Just got a R9 290 Tri-x from members market and run my usual tests on it and even played a few games with no crashes, but when idle I keep getting crashes. Windows 10 locks up on a black screen mostly and I have to hold the power off button for 5 seconds in order to turn pc off. It is not a heat issue btw. It happens when 40-45C.
I uninstalled drivers, run DDU in safe mode and installed latest drivers, still same problem.
I get the feeling it is caused by Wattman which is applying high voltages on lower power states. By default voltage is on auto, but when toggle over to manual most states are 1250 with some being 1212, but the lowest one is 1250 which is obvious way to high and is likely why I get the lock ups I assume?
Can someone else with a R9 290 share with me their voltages for all the states so I can manually enter them please?
@AMDMatt - I know you are very busy right now, but any ideas?
I uninstalled drivers, run DDU in safe mode and installed latest drivers, still same problem.
I get the feeling it is caused by Wattman which is applying high voltages on lower power states. By default voltage is on auto, but when toggle over to manual most states are 1250 with some being 1212, but the lowest one is 1250 which is obvious way to high and is likely why I get the lock ups I assume?
Can someone else with a R9 290 share with me their voltages for all the states so I can manually enter them please?
@AMDMatt - I know you are very busy right now, but any ideas?
Many thanks.
If anyone else can chip in, it would be helpful. As those numbers seem a little higher than some others I have seen online. Though, those were for a 390.
Seems a bit odd State 3 would be lower than State 2 and 1.
If the voltages are reading as you say then you should dump the bios using GPU-Z and then use Hawaii reader to make sure that the voltages haven't been hard wired. In the card's BIOS each DPM state should rely on a lookup table which sets the voltage for a given state based on the asic quality of the card (I believe). Therefore the default voltages are different for each card, apart from state 0 which is always 968mv I think (wattman doesn't let you change that).
For instance, here is my card which is running quite undervolted (-88mv under stock):
You can see in the GPU Freq table how my voltages go 65282, 65283, 65284, 68285 then 1150, 1156, 1162. The last three are not stock voltages, those are set by me and duplicated onto the limits tab as well. So make sure yours run up like the 65282 etc to make sure you have a stock bios first of all (those 65k numbers aren't voltages, they tell the card to use the lookup table for its voltages).
Secondly, regarding black screen on 290s etc, I think those issues were mostly due to voltage too low. My card did that at idle when I undervolted using MSI AB because I think it was applying the undervolt to all the states or something odd.
Edit: Oh I should add, if you do change voltages in your cards bios you MUST have uninstalled afterburner and drivers first, otherwise if those tools apply an overvolt on top of any changes that could cause issues so always DDU your drivers -> flash bios -> reinstall drivers if you need to go down this route.
Edit2: To answer your exact question also my voltages are:
S1: 1031
S2: 1037
S3: 1075
S4: 1118
S5: 1150 (hardwired)
S6: 1156 (hardwired)
S7: 1162 (hardwired) (1237 stock +13mv manufacturer offset = 1250mv)
Card is an MSI 290x gaming.
For instance, here is my card which is running quite undervolted (-88mv under stock):
You can see in the GPU Freq table how my voltages go 65282, 65283, 65284, 68285 then 1150, 1156, 1162. The last three are not stock voltages, those are set by me and duplicated onto the limits tab as well. So make sure yours run up like the 65282 etc to make sure you have a stock bios first of all (those 65k numbers aren't voltages, they tell the card to use the lookup table for its voltages).
Secondly, regarding black screen on 290s etc, I think those issues were mostly due to voltage too low. My card did that at idle when I undervolted using MSI AB because I think it was applying the undervolt to all the states or something odd.
Edit: Oh I should add, if you do change voltages in your cards bios you MUST have uninstalled afterburner and drivers first, otherwise if those tools apply an overvolt on top of any changes that could cause issues so always DDU your drivers -> flash bios -> reinstall drivers if you need to go down this route.
Edit2: To answer your exact question also my voltages are:
S1: 1031
S2: 1037
S3: 1075
S4: 1118
S5: 1150 (hardwired)
S6: 1156 (hardwired)
S7: 1162 (hardwired) (1237 stock +13mv manufacturer offset = 1250mv)
Card is an MSI 290x gaming.
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If the voltages are reading as you say then you should dump the bios using GPU-Z and then use Hawaii reader to make sure that the voltages haven't been hard wired. In the card's BIOS each DPM state should rely on a lookup table which sets the voltage for a given state based on the asic quality of the card (I believe). Therefore the default voltages are different for each card, apart from state 0 which is always 968mv I think (wattman doesn't let you change that).
For instance, here is my card which is running quite undervolted (-88mv under stock):
You can see in the GPU Freq table how my voltages go 65282, 65283, 65284, 68285 then 1150, 1156, 1162. The last three are not stock voltages, those are set by me and duplicated onto the limits tab as well. So make sure yours run up like the 65282 etc to make sure you have a stock bios first of all (those 65k numbers aren't voltages, they tell the card to use the lookup table for its voltages).
Secondly, regarding black screen on 290s etc, I think those issues were mostly due to voltage too low. My card did that at idle when I undervolted using MSI AB because I think it was applying the undervolt to all the states or something odd.
Edit: Oh I should add, if you do change voltages in your cards bios you MUST have uninstalled afterburner and drivers first, otherwise if those tools apply an overvolt on top of any changes that could cause issues so always DDU your drivers -> flash bios -> reinstall drivers if you need to go down this route.
Edit2: To answer your exact question also my voltages are:
S1: 1031
S2: 1037
S3: 1075
S4: 1118
S5: 1150 (hardwired)
S6: 1156 (hardwired)
S7: 1162 (hardwired) (1237 stock +13mv manufacturer offset = 1250mv)
Card is an MSI 290x gaming.
Thanks for the detailed response. Since I manually input the voltage settings in wattman, had no issues, but I am not fully convinced yet.
I only use the AMD drivers, no afterburner or anything like that. I installed the hawaii reader. Here is how it looks like:
Is there a way of checking if it is the VRM? Maybe that is running hot somehow?
@Ultra_Extreme - Maybe you can chime in here instead of members market. Is this the default BIOS? Any info you can give to sort this out would be grateful.
I have that card, under wattman mine are
0 N/A
1 1125
2 1112
3 1112
4 1150
5 1175 (can change this to 1150)
6 1212 (can change this to 1150)
7 1237 (can change this to 1150)
By altering the last 3 to 1150, power limit 50%, it knocks off about 5c and keeps the fans down, so its much nicer when gaming. The only issue when rebooting the PC i have to set them again as wattman does not keep settings (is that normal?)
*Update did not have a game profile in the gaming section once i did, it keeps the global settings,
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Thanks for the info.
All I see there as a temperature is GPU Temp. The rest display V (Vaults).
What should I be looking for, the name?
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Hi M8, im afraid i have no info to give? I bought the card and i put it in my PC ive never altered the bios. Neither did i ever experience black idle hangs either. Im afraid all this voltage testing and overclocking stuff is stuff i did long in the past and im well out of date. The PC it was pulled from was basically on 24/7 and only in use hour or 2 a day at most, generally a file server. Never had any issues. I think those cards have a physically switchable bios dont they?