The AMD Driver Thread

KungFuSpaghetti · 2 May 2020 at 09:01

Th0nt said:
Really losing me now, your admitting to having zero AMD issues in 5 years but are paying nvidia tax because AMD drivers are terrible. LMAO. Lighten up chief buy what you want

That's 5 years of nvidia cards I've had without driver issues (not AMD), minus the initial freesync issues for 2 driver releases. Hence the reason for sticking with them because there are too many AMD driver issues whether you die hard fan boys care to admit it or not.

humbug · 2 May 2020 at 09:12

KungFuSpaghetti said:
That's 5 years of nvidia cards I've had without driver issues (not AMD), minus the initial freesync issues for 2 driver releases. Hence the reason for sticking with them because there are too many AMD driver issues whether you die hard fan boys care to admit it or not.

Extremism always works when you're trying to get your point across.

KungFuSpaghetti · 2 May 2020 at 10:14

humbug said:
Extremism always works when you're trying to get your point across.

It's mental how defensive people get over other people's hardware choices as well as denying these well documented issues as some mass conspiracy theory... bonkers.

gpuerrilla · 2 May 2020 at 10:35

KungFuSpaghetti said:
That's 5 years of nvidia cards I've had without driver issues (not AMD), minus the initial freesync issues for 2 driver releases.

Ahh I read that wrong then my bad. Although, this is an AMD driver thread - my past three cards have been (old to new) 290x, 1060 6Gb, Vega56. In all my cards nvidia/amd I rarely have issues (My first GPU was vodoo3 3000 in late nineties so I have had both brands till present). There does seem to be a problem with the 5700 series for some, and a similar proportion for the vega (not me though, and lots of others in this thread). To live in a fantasy world though when buying nvidia will mean you have zero problems is laughable, but alas I am an extremist!

KungFuSpaghetti · 2 May 2020 at 11:06

Th0nt said:
Ahh I read that wrong then my bad. Although, this is an AMD driver thread - my past three cards have been (old to new) 290x, 1060 6Gb, Vega56. In all my cards nvidia/amd I rarely have issues (My first GPU was vodoo3 3000 in late nineties so I have had both brands till present). There does seem to be a problem with the 5700 series for some, and a similar proportion for the vega (not me though, and lots of others in this thread). To live in a fantasy world though when buying nvidia will mean you have zero problems is laughable, but alas I am an extremist!

Again you've missed where I said every card manufacturer will have issues, but to deny that AMD don't have constant driver issues every release for more users than should be deemed acceptable is clearly incorrect. That was enough to put me off saving a few quid because I don't think there's anything wrong with not wanting to spend £430 on a flawed product.
I hope to not get issues with my 2070 super and to be honest I don't expect any. If I do it's unlucky, however if it was a 5700xt I'd bought and stayed having issues, then it wouldn't be unusual would it?

MyBrainz · 2 May 2020 at 13:33

I live in a fantasy world then, as had no issues with my 1660 Super since Dec 12th when i bought it

But i'm hoping AMD bring something great with RDNA2 and less driver problems, i really want an All AMD system again

gpuerrilla · 2 May 2020 at 18:53

KungFuSpaghetti said:
That was enough to put me off saving a few quid because I don't think there's anything wrong with not wanting to spend £430 on a flawed product.
I hope to not get issues with my 2070 super and to be honest I don't expect any. If I do it's unlucky, however if it was a 5700xt I'd bought and stayed having issues, then it wouldn't be unusual would it?

I thought about 5700's myself but they are not a big enough leap for around £400 outlay. You can get some for under £400 but sticking to your observation I would be cautious too if they were flawed enough to be hit and miss.

Some good facts like say how many returns are OcUK seeing from the 5700 cards by @Gibbo would give an unbiased outlook on if they were as flawed as people mention.

Would I get the 2070 super in that position? Well it damn better be for £5-600. I wasn't overly comfortable parting with £300 for my vega as I think cards in general are still overpriced.

humbug · 2 May 2020 at 19:05

The 2070S is a nice card, its a better card than the 5700XT, and yes Nvidia's drivers are at the moment better.

But 5% higher performance and more mature drivers does not justify the £150 premium....

keyser · 3 May 2020 at 10:23

I've been on 20.4.1 this whole time. So far some kind of crash every 2-6 hours in Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Far Cry 5, The Division 2. No crashes in Red Dead Redemption 2, I can even alt+tab and load Chrome, youtube. The only difference is RDR2 is using Vulkan.

Morfinel · 3 May 2020 at 11:39

Did anyone else had black screen crash after installing Valorant? Never had them before and then right after instalation had one on RX580

LoadsaMoney · 3 May 2020 at 12:22

If you're having problems, you should give those old Pro drivers a go.

jokerguv · 4 May 2020 at 11:58

After updating to 20.4.2 all my black screens / crash issues have completely gone away.

Not had a single one since the update. Same hardware, OS and usage during last fortnight.

Happy to see proper stability back.

Jayblue · 4 May 2020 at 13:26

Done a whole week on 19.12.1 drivers, no black screens or hangs during extended testing. Seems any driver newer than this causes bad instability for me.

EastCoastHandle · 5 May 2020 at 01:09

Makes me wonder if windows has a gpu cache?
Hmm, well there's Disk Cleanup > DirectX Shader Cache
And most game have a shader cache as well. You have to google where they are.

docsonic · 5 May 2020 at 10:35

KungFuSpaghetti said:
That's 5 years of nvidia cards I've had without driver issues (not AMD), minus the initial freesync issues for 2 driver releases. Hence the reason for sticking with them because there are too many AMD driver issues whether you die hard fan boys care to admit it or not.

Nvidia may be in for a rough ride with Ampere though as leaks suggest they are *gasp* finally revamping their control panel. A new architecture and a new software eco-system... sound familiar?

A few of the Radeon 2020 drivers were flaky for me but most have been stable, perfectly stable on the latest release.

Why did I say that?

KungFuSpaghetti · 5 May 2020 at 11:49

docsonic said:
Nvidia may be in for a rough ride with Ampere though as leaks suggest they are *gasp* finally revamping their control panel. A new architecture and a new software eco-system... sound familiar?

A few of the Radeon 2020 drivers were flaky for me but most have been stable, perfectly stable on the latest release.

Why did I say that?

Haha famous last words?

Let's hope the turing cards aren't a total fiasco then. Even bigger hope is AMD cards have the hardware to keep pace and keep prices realistic. Still not buying this BS about the 3060 being faster than the 2080ti... if it is then entry level nvidia cards will probably new 1k lol.

theforce · 5 May 2020 at 13:26

Jayblue said:
Done a whole week on 19.12.1 drivers, no black screens or hangs during extended testing. Seems any driver newer than this causes bad instability for me.

Back to 19.2.1 as well. Missing lower resolutions with anything newer than those.

TNA · 6 May 2020 at 02:02

KungFuSpaghetti said:
Haha famous last words?

Let's hope the turing cards aren't a total fiasco then. Even bigger hope is AMD cards have the hardware to keep pace and keep prices realistic. Still not buying this BS about the 3060 being faster than the 2080ti... if it is then entry level nvidia cards will probably new 1k lol.

They are referring to RT performance. Which is believable.

miller745 · 6 May 2020 at 10:32

theforce said:
Back to 19.2.1 as well. Missing lower resolutions with anything newer than those.

19.12.1 were perfect for me, but with the X-Plane vulkan update needing a newer driver had to update to try it. 20.2.2 are bearable, still get a lot of black screens but they only last a second before it resets its self. The newer 20.4.2 were worse, had to press keys to reset the driver.
Very, very irritating

schumi84 · 6 May 2020 at 10:57

I'm having no end of problems with crashes etc and I'm now wondering whether a fresh Windows 10 install is required to start from a clean slate. The earliest drivers I can go back to with the 5600 XT are January as that was when they added 5600 support and I get hard locks/no display and driver resets with that.

I'm running the WHQL drivers (20.2.2) and even these give display crashes and a new thing that has started happening is Windows notifies me that a device has been plugged into the front audio jacks periodically when the card is under load. I'm not entirely sure where to turn now as it is pointing towards a driver problem but I'm running out of things to try to get it sorted (aside a Windows 10 reinstall).

I have changed Ryzen Master to clock the CPU automatically (previously I was setting a clock of 4GHz and 1.3V limit) to rule out instability there and the card has the new Powercolor BIOS applied. I tried using the Quiet mode on the card which I have not yet updated the BIOS on and that showed the same behaviour.

Does anyone have any other thoughts on things I could try?