The AMD Driver Thread

[humbug]

I get why people might want FSR4 on older hardware but if we stop and think about it, what happens if it does work but you get a 15% (random figure) perf loss or greater (game dependent). Would people use it? "Hey, we've back ported this great feature for you but oh yeah you are going to have less performance." Last time I checked people don't want less FPS they want more. Praising Nvidia for releasing DLSS4.5 for working on older models when it means losing on average 5-12% perf (but can be up to 30%). Thanks but no thanks. That's not a good news story.

From my testing FSR 4 on RDNA3 is 10% slower than FSR3, but still faster than native and with a massively better image quality vs FSR3.

To give you an example, RX 7800XT in cyberpunk 1440P with the highest setting and RT on Psycho with FSR4 on balanced its 50 FPS, with Native AA is 23 FPS.

FSR3 is just bad, its really bad, it doesn't need to be bad RDNA3 and 2 are capable of running upscaling tech with image quality just as good as DLSS 3 if not even a little better, IMO AMD were just too lazy to give us proper compute driven upscaling, until now that is and what they are doing is locking behind RDNA4.

 

[TNA]

From my testing FSR 4 on RDNA3 is 10% slower than FSR3, but still faster than native and with a massively better image quality vs FSR3.

To give you an example, RX 7800XT in cyberpunk 1440P with the highest setting and RT on Psycho with FSR4 on balanced its 50 FPS, with Native AA is 23 FPS.

FSR3 is just bad, its really bad, it doesn't need to be bad RDNA3 and 2 are capable of running upscaling tech with image quality just as good as DLSS 3 if not even a little better, IMO AMD were just too lazy to give us proper compute driven upscaling, until now that is and what they are doing is locking behind RDNA4.

I remember trying FSR 2 or was it 3 on Resident Evil 4 Remake and was like what is this? As soon as you modded in DLSS the difference was night and day.

DLSS alone makes it worth going Nvidia imo. AMD don't want to learn. Always late and not doing enough, for me anyway.

Now I can even use DLSS Ultra Performance for even more fps if I need. Not tried it but based on what I have read it good.

Before people like Firegod lose their **** about my post and try and lebel me an Nvidia fan boy, please check my post history. Have had loads of AMD GPUs. I gave them benefit of the doubt and kept buying their cards even when nvidia were ahead. But eventually you just realise, they are not your friend and you are not a charity. They need to do a lot more if they want to earn my money. Right now they are far away from it. Which is a shame.

 

[Bodom]

Like I've said before I just don't get how bad the Radeon division is just feels like almost every time they have a chance of of getting some really good PR and press coverage they just mess it up almost every time.

It's like they are stood in front of an open goal and instead of tapping the ball in to the back of the net they panic and welly it in to the crowd

 

[Firegod]

Same old people coming out to post again. Hilarious!

 

[Firegod]

No one forces you to use it. You give people an option..

This is very true, but on this forum if this happened and AMD gave people the option, would it be well received or what is more likely, the usual sharks circling to post something negative will jump in and say they've released something pointless due to the FPS hit. Just like I pointed out about DLSS4.5 being back ported. I agree and all for giving people options but they have to be beneficial. The way I see it there are two reasons. First, they are holding off in order to sell 9000 series cards. Makes sense, you need a USP. Or, they aren't happy with the performance and don't want to release it. Or somewhere in the middle.

 

[Firegod]

From my testing FSR 4 on RDNA3 is 10% slower than FSR3, but still faster than native and with a massively better image quality vs FSR3.

To give you an example, RX 7800XT in cyberpunk 1440P with the highest setting and RT on Psycho with FSR4 on balanced its 50 FPS, with Native AA is 23 FPS.

FSR3 is just bad, its really bad, it doesn't need to be bad RDNA3 and 2 are capable of running upscaling tech with image quality just as good as DLSS 3 if not even a little better, IMO AMD were just too lazy to give us proper compute driven upscaling, until now that is and what they are doing is locking behind RDNA4.

Thanks for this. So in that one game, we're seeing a 10% performance hit on RDNA3. What were the 1% lows like? Without knowing other game engines and titles we could see, similar to DLSS4.5, up to 20% loss. Suppose that is not out of the realms of possibility. I just don't see how that can be sold as a good thing. But hey, if it were released I'm sure I might try it out but I honestly can't take more FPS hits with my current 6900XT at 4k. I'm already leaning more on upscaling and frame gen with game settings on a med/high mix. If I slapped on FSR4 with a further ~10% hit (or greater hit on RDNA2) as I've been saying, it just isn't going to work. Really can't see why people want that.

 

[HarryBizzle]

It's not hard - because FSR3 is so incredibly ugly that many of us find it unusable.

 

[Bodom]

Thanks for this. So in that one game, we're seeing a 10% performance hit on RDNA3. What were the 1% lows like? Without knowing other game engines and titles we could see, similar to DLSS4.5, up to 20% loss. Suppose that is not out of the realms of possibility. I just don't see how that can be sold as a good thing. But hey, if it were released I'm sure I might try it out but I honestly can't take more FPS hits with my current 6900XT at 4k. I'm already leaning more on upscaling and frame gen with game settings on a med/high mix. If I slapped on FSR4 with a further ~10% hit (or greater hit on RDNA2) as I've been saying, it just isn't going to work. Really can't see why people want that.

Remember that's a 10% hit compared to FSR 3 at the same FSR setting but it's still running a lot faster than native and with much better image quality compared to FSR3 so you could possibly offset any performance loss with FSR 4 by running it 1 setting lower than you would using FSR 2 or 3 and still get around the same FPS but still with better image quality than you would using the older FSR versions.

 

[Bodom]

 

[Game]

I don't care, hence why I don't go posting in the Nvidia drivers thread. I'm trying to convey that a) it's not as rosy as people make it out, and b) they can change easily vendor if they are not happy with how AMD release updates. It seems that people instead find it easier to post replies to then stir up the usual responses. It's literally the same people every time. And some of the people don't even own an AMD card. They literally just can't help themselves. They must sit shaking at their desk waiting for a reason to post and then exhale as if releasing some inner demon. They need help!

Agree the amd forums on reddit are full of it