AMD and Apple are polar opposites in terms of brands.
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Soldato
I am aware of the subs being on the wife's family plan. They make plenty of money in other areas is what I'm highlighting @Raelgun !
You asked how pricing something at an amount Vs the competition is mental yet I've given you a real world example working?
Doesn't matter who it is, it can be done and it's been done right now.
I didn't ask anything - I said the demand of 4080 raw performance for £350 is mental. And it is. Then you started banging on about Apple.
I don't disagree lol but the M4 Mac mini right now is the bar to measure everything including how things can be priced without inflation being a thing.
You really being blind?
So you didn't ask but stated the price is mental.
Then I ask you how you don't consider the pricing on the M4 Mac mini being mental?
Both belong to the same sector and use the same production facility or similar.
Apple undercut the competition with their product or rather priced it where it should be but AMD can't? I ask you why
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Don
A GPU is essentially 3 components, the chip, some ram and a PCB.
AMD only really control one of those - the chip. (They don't buy enough RAM for their MBA boards to meaningfully influence price, and PCB costs are largely going to be fixed)
A Mac Mini has a huge bill of materials that can be negotiated individually by Apple, and Apple buy huge amounts of components e.g. RAM for all their products.
That's also ignoring the huge margins Apple products have, just because they are Apple products.
Apple's production cycles for things like the Mac Mini have typically also been quite long, meaning they can afford to make less profit when first released, increasing profit further in the lifecycle as yields improve/cost of production reduces.
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It's 600 quid for a ridiculously well performing bit of kit. Yeah, you need a keyboard, mouse and monitor to go with it but there's nothing even remotely competiting with what that offers for 600 quid.
Yet they still released it at 599.
Apple still designs the soc.
I doubt it's a loss leader at all and they will still generate a profit from it.
But we now just assuming the undergoing but the reality is, they Mac mini is 599 to the market and that's caught massive attention and prospective sales.
No one has really been able to complain about it other than the power button.
599 for a computer that has a solid office suite, music and video editing suite i built in isnt well priced?
I don't see how the price of mini PCs sold by a corporate religion is relevant. We're talking about discrete graphics cards.
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Well priced you could argue it is, definitely not costing 1/3 of competing offers like it was suggested AMD should do.
Just because the cult of Steve released something somewhat affordable, it doesn't mean it's undercutting anyone...
It's what I'm trying to say, it's not me trying to Mac Vs pc, it's price and stating even a big company has released something very recently that isn't positioned with inflation affecting it or anything else.
Not too mention apple wages are probably much higher then AMD.
It's tech? With components made by the same production facilities?
I'm not talking about selling you a Mac, I've given you a real world example in the tech space that actually you can price things well and from apple of all companies.
Soldato
this thread has gone a bit bizarre.
It is undercutting everything pretty big.
No one has been able to make a comparable device at retail.
Yes, I'm afraid it's going OT again and I might be part of the cause. Mods, feel free to delete anything you don't consider relevant.
So instead of buying a 9070xt you should buy a Mac mini?
Ask yourself why this is true, and apply that to graphics cards, particularly AMD's.
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Soldato
Its a great measure I agree. The distinction I would apply is many years they have commanded big figures for their hardware, as well as their software. AMD however are not receiving subscriptions or extras from apps.. but lets not give them any ideas!!
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