I still think they need to gimp Nvidia ever to slightly on AMD cpus certain if Nvidia made a cpu its the tactic they would use
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Raytracing is mehh in multiplayer not worth the effort
So rumours point to lower TDP 9070 XT MBA cards (and some cheaper AIBs) to be under or at £500. Performance about 7900 XT in raster and 4070Ti in RT
Higher end TDP models about RX 4080 (non super) in raster and RT. This may cost from £550 up to £600.
Note that all of the above is based on the most recent price and performance rumours. Here is a nice brief article that outlines those rumours.
www.forbes.com
Unless the performance is noticeably better than the above AMD simply don’t have the room to price higher what with Nvidia showing their hand. Frankly they can’t price any higher than the known 5070 prices because sheer Nvidia mindshare will instantly declare it a “fail”. AMD cannot repeat the absolute debacle of their crap 7900 XT and (to a lesser extent) XTX launch pricing.
It looks like the 9070 XT is aimed at release 7800 XT and 7900 GRE pricing of $479 - $549 and that bodes well IMHO if accurate. The 7800 XT and 7900 GRE helped redeem AMD a bit as they both had very good price/perf. So hopefully they follow that pricing model.
Now all we need to do is keep any loaded guns away from AMD. Just in case they decide to shoot themselves in both feet.
Higher end TDP models about RX 4080 (non super) in raster and RT. This may cost from £550 up to £600.
Note that all of the above is based on the most recent price and performance rumours. Here is a nice brief article that outlines those rumours.
AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT Low Price Leak: Great News For PC Gamers?
If leaked pricing for AMD's Radeon RX 9070 XT is accurate, it could mean Nvidia has a fight on its hands especially against the RTX 5070 and 5070 Ti.
www.forbes.com
Unless the performance is noticeably better than the above AMD simply don’t have the room to price higher what with Nvidia showing their hand. Frankly they can’t price any higher than the known 5070 prices because sheer Nvidia mindshare will instantly declare it a “fail”. AMD cannot repeat the absolute debacle of their crap 7900 XT and (to a lesser extent) XTX launch pricing.
It looks like the 9070 XT is aimed at release 7800 XT and 7900 GRE pricing of $479 - $549 and that bodes well IMHO if accurate. The 7800 XT and 7900 GRE helped redeem AMD a bit as they both had very good price/perf. So hopefully they follow that pricing model.
Now all we need to do is keep any loaded guns away from AMD. Just in case they decide to shoot themselves in both feet.
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I dearly hope the rumours about full announcement on the 15th followed by review embargo 22rd and launch 23rd are true. Cos at this point it would suck pretty bad if this ended up drawing out till the end of q1. More than once we've had "it will launch in qX!" Only for it to literally to be the last day of the quarter.
I don’t t think that will happen. Rumours are review samples are already being sent out.
My own take on this is Nvidia never cut consumers slack on pricing EVER, unless the competition is strong. So the fact they are cutting their original 80 class and below prices, shows they know AMD have something that competes in pure performance. This clue alone is a far bigger indicator of relative performance than any other leaks. Nvidia NEVER drop prices unless there is a reason to.
So expect (really think hope) AMD to deliver a GPU that is as good as the 5070Ti for a lot less cost. The 5080 will then be only ~15% faster for a significant price increase. But Nvidia can easily use their sheer brand influence to allow this. But the 5070 and even the 5070Ti looks like they are there for the taking if AMD don’t do something stupid.
My own take on this is Nvidia never cut consumers slack on pricing EVER, unless the competition is strong. So the fact they are cutting their original 80 class and below prices, shows they know AMD have something that competes in pure performance. This clue alone is a far bigger indicator of relative performance than any other leaks. Nvidia NEVER drop prices unless there is a reason to.
So expect (really think hope) AMD to deliver a GPU that is as good as the 5070Ti for a lot less cost. The 5080 will then be only ~15% faster for a significant price increase. But Nvidia can easily use their sheer brand influence to allow this. But the 5070 and even the 5070Ti looks like they are there for the taking if AMD don’t do something stupid.
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I live in hope
Frank Azore is full of ****.
I do think that regardless of how good they are the majority of people will hold off on getting one till at least the 5080 launches, and some till the 5070/ti. So they know exactly what the competition looks like. This could actually be a really good thing for stock levels, give them upto about 6 weeks to get stuff onto shelves in high quantities.
Not me though if priced and performance is there, I'm having one and will fight anyone who tries to stop me
hype train goes choo-choo
Not me though if priced and performance is there, I'm having one and will fight anyone who tries to stop me
hype train goes choo-choo
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Soldato
Don't under estimate glowing reviews that contribute to sales of a GPU, if every review outlet love these they will make big sales. AMD just has to not screw up the price and put a downer on it.
Yep look how well Intel b580 sold out due to glowing reviews. The opposite is true as well, if your reviews are bad your sales will be too, if the card is overpriced the reviews will be negative. And for price, the simple rule is that reviewers want to see performance per dollar improvements, that's it - don't charge the same price per frame as last gen, you need to give more frames per dollar
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Soldato
If these were good value ( & similar to 5070Ti ) I would get one, but the fact AMD are hit and miss in AI apps puts me off, if I want to mess around with some programs but I can't because it doesn't work properly then it pretty much rules out these cards for me unless they've fixed the issues.
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Latest hype train rumour:
videocardz.com
Around an RTX4070TI Super/RTX4080 in Cyberpunk 2077 and Black Myth Wukong.
Alleged AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT performance in Cyberpunk 2077 and Black Myth Wukong leaked - VideoCardz.com
Chiphell reviewer shares Radeon RX 9070 XT performance in games It could be based on the newer drivers. Chiphell appears to be at the forefront of the new Radeon RX 9070 leaks. The site has shared and later removed several leaks in the past, particularly those originating from posts by...
videocardz.com
Around an RTX4070TI Super/RTX4080 in Cyberpunk 2077 and Black Myth Wukong.
Soldato
Choo choo until the ticket inspector tells me how much it costs
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Latest hype train rumour:
Alleged AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT performance in Cyberpunk 2077 and Black Myth Wukong leaked - VideoCardz.com
Chiphell reviewer shares Radeon RX 9070 XT performance in games It could be based on the newer drivers. Chiphell appears to be at the forefront of the new Radeon RX 9070 leaks. The site has shared and later removed several leaks in the past, particularly those originating from posts by...
Around an RTX4070TI Super/RTX4080 in Cyberpunk 2077 and Black Myth Wukong.
I mean...
If we can have a 9070XT at 4070ti Levels in RT, and 4080 levels in Rasta at around the $500 mark AMD could be onto a real winner, depending on the final reviews for both companies.
According to that it's 4070 ti super RT in game that's heavily Nvidia optimized