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Octoplex7 said:
Thanks for sharing this. They're pretty big. I'd also want one for my SFF in the living room so it looks like I'll have to make do with an ASRock (only ever owned a motherboard by them and that was a looong time ago now).
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Sumanji said:
Bad size news (for me at least).

  • SRock Steel Legend ~290mm*
  • ASRock Challenger ~294mm
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Any chance some of the XT models will be less than 300mm?
 
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Octoplex7 said:
You're just reinforcing my point. An AMD GPU that is focused purely on gaming needs to be cheaper than the Nvidia equivalent...

If there were two cards, one AMD and the other Nvidia, and they both had identical VRAM and (raw) gaming performance, and were both the same price, which one would you buy?
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Honestly if it's features like that I'll never use and I know I'll never use or need that I'll get what one I think looks better or cheaper, and by cheaper I mean like £10 just general brand differences but that same overall price I wouldn't automatically get Nvidia because it's Nvidia. Like wise I'd pay slightly more than Nvidia and get AMD to get say get a Sapphire branded card over something like a Zotac.

Stuff that would swing me one way or there other would be, general Rasta, RT performance. DLSS/FSR wouldn't swing me as I play primarily online games so I'd rather lower the settings.
 
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StarShock said:
But don't you understand, by going nvidia you can reduce the several hours of 4k video encoding in resolve you do every day by almost 20%! I assume that you like everyone else spends at least 5 hours a day encoding 4k video.
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Yes but AMD is 110 degrees, can Nvidia cook my eggs? I didn't think so!!
 
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eeii said:
Looks like MSI have dropped AMD graphics cards. Hardly surprising.
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So in have a theory about this. Very briefly a few years back nvidia was pushing their partners to have different branding for nvidia and amd products, mainly laptops iirc. Which turned into a little bit of a poopstorm and was dropped as quickly as it started. But MSI was one of the laptop makers that took nvidia up on this. And spun off a separate line for their amd laptops, even changing up the classic dragon for a bird thing instead. So I wondered at the time if msi was trying to tighten its binds with nvidia, then once evga shut shop msi started to reduce their amd graphics cards.

So I wonder if there's a big behind the scenes deal that happened with nvidia and msi to maybe take over from evga. Though that's all just my own little theory based on absolutely nothing
 
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gpuerrilla said:
I have not owned many gpu's from them, but when I did send one back for rma they lost it so I ended up getting a refund. Kind of annoyed me chasing it up so I avoided them since.
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I've personally not owned own either but my brother and his friend both purchased. Temps were garbage and both needed downclocked to remain stable. One had to be downclocked so severely that it was a massive performance hindrance. That one went back. The other was kept but kept having crashing issues through its lifespan.
Maybe just bad luck but two different MSI models with issues put me off.
 
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michty_me said:
One of my mates who has had PC's for years didn't even know AMD made graphics cards. He has always had Nvidia, it's all he has known.
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Many normies have moved onto the new apple minis and nvidia cloud gaming.

I am not a normie but I also use this combo and have been for over a year (albeit with another thin client before the new mac minis arrived).
 
kieran_read said:
I find it all concerning even the 4080s "4 sold today" I mean who's buying cards now when in 2 weeks you can (in theory) get a 5080 at the same price.
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not everyone knows this we are back to the "Nerd" argument most normal people do not follow or care about tech news
 
StarShock said:
So in have a theory about this. Very briefly a few years back nvidia was pushing their partners to have different branding for nvidia and amd products, mainly laptops iirc. Which turned into a little bit of a poopstorm and was dropped as quickly as it started. But MSI was one of the laptop makers that took nvidia up on this. And spun off a separate line for their amd laptops, even changing up the classic dragon for a bird thing instead. So I wondered at the time if msi was trying to tighten its binds with nvidia, then once evga shut shop msi started to reduce their amd graphics cards.

So I wonder if there's a big behind the scenes deal that happened with nvidia and msi to maybe take over from evga. Though that's all just my own little theory based on absolutely nothing
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HUB were talking about this one their podcast, it seems to be that MSI have fallen out with AMD rather than tried to get into bed with Nvidia. They're pretty much the only gaming handheld (Claw) using an Intel APU, and they've vastly reduced their AMD chipset motherboards. There were other interesting points too.
 
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