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50 less. However with the trend of the AIB prices and paper launch, they might get greedy. The elephant in the room is how much they will price the XT
That depends on if AMD chase margins/profit over market share. My bets are on profits, so expect AMD to go for the 10% better price/perf angle.
It is simple really. Assuming the 9070 is similar to 5070 performance, it will be 50-100 dollars cheaper. Job done.
My blind guess:
The 9070 MBA releases at £499, offering performance between the 4070 Ti & 7900 XT. The 5070 is about 10% behind the 9070, performing closer to the 7900 GRE.
9070 XT will be £200 more, and will land a couple of points off a 4080. The performance gap vs the 5070 Ti will be smaller than 9070 vs 5070.
The 9070 MBA releases at £499, offering performance between the 4070 Ti & 7900 XT. The 5070 is about 10% behind the 9070, performing closer to the 7900 GRE.
9070 XT will be £200 more, and will land a couple of points off a 4080. The performance gap vs the 5070 Ti will be smaller than 9070 vs 5070.
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I don't think you're far off, but feel like 699 for the 9070xt put it too close to the 5070ti msrp (which will mostly be fictional) i just think amd would be leaving the door open for too many "but dlss" or "but slightly better ray tracing" etc for people to justify paying the premium for the 5070ti. If they really want to stamp on nvidias throat it would need to be under 650, and the farther under the better £599 would be very difficult to ignore
I'll definitely be paying for my next GPU and the rest of the pc on finance it's a no brainer for me.
After being disappointed in the 5080 release AMD are now on my radar, fingers crossed we get something decent.
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I’m not even guessing anymore. Nvidia’s pathetic showing and reviews of the 5000 series is going to embolden AMD. I think in hindsight (and I joked about it at the time the delay was announced) AMD held off because they saw how bad the 5000 series was going to be.
What ever the final price, I do believe that the 9070 and 9070XT will be at most 20% apart. All of the leaked placeholder launch prices that I've seen suggest this.
It did cross my mind that £200 is too much of a difference based on leaked performance. The MLID benchmark leak only has the cards 13% apart, which means the XT is worse value even if there's only £100 difference.
But £499 and £599 almost seems too good to be true.
15% is typical between SKUs (tiers). The 9070 shows a roughly 30% uplift over the 78000 XT. The 9070 XT would be a similar uplift against the 7900 GRE.
The dilemma is has AMDs goals changed in pricing based on the 5000 series is massively underwhelming.
I know. I didn't mean relative to norms, but relative to the nutty Nvidia 5000 series cards. AMD releasing a card which sits between the £739 5070 Ti and £979 5080 for £599 seems mental
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It’s most probably driven by ADMO (actually did miss out) and the mediocrity the 5000 series offers. People can get 5080 level of raster for half the price and don’t care about RT.
I know. I didn't mean relative to norms, but relative to the nutty Nvidia 5000 series cards. AMD releasing a card which sits between the £739 5070 Ti and £979 5080 for £599 seems mental
Are you a fly on the wall of AMD HQ?
That will be exactly the conversation they are having right now.
So what your saying is that AMD actually managed to do an IQ 200 4D chess move by letting nvidia sell their cards for them.. Would never have thought in a life time that would or could happen considering it relies on 2 things to happen simultaneously of which each on their own are slim chances. 1) nvidia being completely drunk at the wheel, I mean "#!"# faced and narc'd up, and 2) AMD making a correct marketing move.
EDIT: It's actually more mental than that, as it requires 3 things not 2, the third being: AMD drivers being perceived as not an issue anymore.
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