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That pretty much just confirms that we will get no new information for at least 3 weeks. Everything that could be leaked has, both true and false, price somewhere between £300 and £900 performance somewhere between a 7700xt and a 5080 and release date somewhere between the 1st of March and the 1st of April.

And now we know we likely won't have confirmation of anything till the end of February. So honestly may as well lock this and walk away for a few weeks :P

MLID is that you???? :eek:
 
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It's not a hypothesis as there's no way to test anything, yet, to discover if it's reality.
that's exactly what it is. you proposed a perfectly good reason for the current weirdness in both companies current gpu releases.
 
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Is it starting to feel like AMD have an open goal here, the sentiment for the 50 series is not that positive, seems like a paper ish launch to boot, the rest of the 50xx stack will have been released and understood, surely they can't c **k it up ?

Maybe, but it's an open goal in an amateur sunday league match, bottom division. Neither AMD nor nvidia really care much about the gaming market. AMD even less so than nvidia, since AMD has such a low market share and isn't even entering the top end of the market (where the margins are the highest in the market).

nvidia has sewn up the graphics card market as a sort of fashion market (fashion having far higher profit margins) and now has exclusive fishing for the whales in that market. nvidia has made graphics cards a fashion item to such an extent that they can charge double, freely use deceptive naming in their product stack from one generation to the next (e.g. calling a 60 series card a 70 series card) and even blatantly lie about their products (5070 has the same performance as a 4090 - a blatant lie) and still get away with it, still get almost all the sales in the market, still get customers swarming to compete to pay whatever nvidia charge, still get to be the default option. Paperish launch indeed and I think that's deliberate. Scarcity of product is an asset for a fashion brand inflating margins and chasing whales.

AMD have already messed it up again with this generation of graphics cards. They can mess it up. They already have messed it up. They worked hard to mess it up, making a de facto last minute unrelease of their cards and a hastily cobbled together flimsy excuse for doing so. I think that either the Radeon 9xxx cards have very serious problems that AMD only noticed at the last minute or AMD deliberately withdrew from the market to not just avoid competing with nvidia but actively support nvidia, deliberately handing the open goal to nvidia despite how badly nvidia has fumbled the play this generation. There's no doubt AMD deliberately withdrew from the market. Retailers already have stock of the cards. They could be selling them now.

There are other markets for processors that are far more profitable, including other markets for the same type of processor. Neither company cares about the gaming card market and AMD cares even less than nvidia does.
 
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IDK, i just feel hypothesis is a bit strong but that's more a semantics thing.

If you want accurate semantics, it was an untestable hypothesis.

I think you're thinking of testable hypotheses when you're thinking of hypotheses. Testable hypotheses are useful. Untestable hypotheses aren't very useful, but they are hypotheses.
 
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