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You really are stretching with that , first we got the drivers are not stable which isn't issue anymore now we getting they don't update them enough lol

Nvidia just released new cards so obviously will have drivers just released as will AMD when new cards are released, I have no idea what past release frequency trend on either more update frequency could be because they keep having to fix issues?
 
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Nvidia = Stable, official driver updated as of last week
AMD = 2 months old official stable driver

Things like this put people off, it's one of the reasons Nvidia has over 92% dedicated GPU market share. It's a shame, as the actual hardware and design from AMD is really great.
So amds drivers have been stable for months but nvidia has only managed to have them for a week? Sucks to be an nvidia customer I guess :P
 
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Nvidia = Stable, official driver updated as of last week
AMD = 2 months old official stable driver

Things like this put people off, it's one of the reasons Nvidia has over 92% dedicated GPU market share. It's a shame, as the actual hardware and design from AMD is really great.

Why are people like yourself who owned a 4090 and now a 5090 so clued up on the state of AMD drivers and making out that they somehow influenced your decision?

Seems odd that they would even be on your radar. But you are out here pushing the agenda against them.
 
For the record I have a 3060ti in desktop and a 3070ti in laptop. I have literally no clue about AMD drivers because I've not owned an Amd card in a while.

I think it would be pretty odd for me to research AMD driver release dates in order to formulate an argument against them lol.
 
Why are people like yourself who owned a 4090 and now a 5090 so clued up on the state of AMD drivers and making out that they somehow influenced your decision?

Seems odd that they would even be on your radar. But you are out here pushing the agenda against them.

Plus, he's wrong anyway. Betas are still official and whql means bugger all anyway.
 
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Nvidia = Stable, official driver updated as of last week
AMD = 2 months old official stable driver

Things like this put people off, it's one of the reasons Nvidia has over 92% dedicated GPU market share. It's a shame, as the actual hardware and design from AMD is really great.
Not sure why you felt posting great big pictures was necessary when words are more than sufficient, or why you couldn't resize them for that matter.

However putting aside your seeming inability to use the internet, words, and fallacious reasoning if the point you're trying to make is that because Nvidia released a driver a couple of weeks ago when they'd just released a new series of cards i have to say it's a pretty weak argument.
 
Not sure why you felt posting great big pictures was necessary when words are more than sufficient, or why you couldn't resize them for that matter.
So now if AMD don't release a driver within a defined period they are worse than nvidia. Heard it all now. lol. Maybes have a peek in the Nvidia drivers thread to see how they are getting on.

For the lols - https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforc...3/556589/driver-57216-causing-massive-issues/

Yeah great that Nvidia have released a "stable" driver last week. :cry:
The good old days of this forum have returned, thanks Dave! All we need now is Matt to kick off.
 
I think you have to remember from an early period in 2024 we knew the direction was not going for the high end. This set expectations low and people also assumed nvidia would make another chunky leap from 40 series to the 50 series. You have to judge AMD on what their dude came out and said (cant remember his name) but it was aiming for mass market which indirectly meant the entry to mid range segments.
I think you have to remember that not everyone that will be buying a GPU or a PC with a GPU in will have watched that or taken any notice of what's been said and what expectations were. A lot of people will probably see that Nvidia make the fastest card (or in many scenarios the fastest 3 or maybe even 4 cards) available and base their buying decision on that, even if they don't end up buying one of those.
The people on this forum and forums like these probably make up quite a small % of the consumer base for GPUs, so don't judge it based on what people on here think or do as a lot of customers probably don't.
I imagine (and I may well be wrong) that there are a lot of people that will just buy the brand they've always bought (AMD or Nvidia) and it's not because of a dislike for the other one, it's just easier. Because their 2060 was a good little card for them they'll buy the 5060. They don't know that naming shenanigans have mislead them to buy something relatively worse. And the 5060 will probably perform decently better than the 2060 so they'll be happy. And the cycle will continue.
These are the people that I think AMD marketing needs to reach. I'm guessing this is AMD's plan with their supposed focus on the mid-range segment.

You also cannot be serious with the successful comment. AMD in its data centre has been pretty good and its cpu has been very strong for a while. However all that said, what is getting tiring is the slippery excuses that nvidia get away with their behaviour. It is totally acceptable to criticise the goliath and let them explain. High prices and diluting the tiers is quite obvious to see now. Low stock paper launch and now the slim gen gains has meant people adjust their behaviour which shows something is shifting even with the greatest of mindshare.
I thought we were talking about the consumer GPU division of the business?
And lets be honest, people are complaining about the Nvidia stuff, let's not make out like everyone's happy with the Nvidia situation. But it doesn't look like AMD are giving people an option at the 5080/5090 level. In fact we don't really know what level AMD are actually competing at, I think that's what's annoying some people. People can't buy the new Nvidia GPUs, but they can't buy the new AMD ones either, despite retailers apparently having stock. I don't think either side has done this release particularly well (so far).
 
I had to use..

Driver Version: 566.14 Release Date: 2024 November 12

until last weeks latest release.

Hoping to switch back to AMD soon, seems like a lot of issues lately with Nvidia.

I remember AMD ran really well with multi-display setups, Nvidia is kinda cranky, sometimes my primary wont even display on boot, never had that with AMD.

Swings and roundabouts innit :)
 
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