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Do you want to know why at 4K the B580 is 20% faster than the 7600 XT vs only 5% at 1080P? Because the 9800X3D TPU used to test these GPU's, (this is the fastest gaming CPU money can buy right now) is bottlenecking the B580 at 1080P. Imagine what happens with a 10400K or a Ryzen 2600X.

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humbug said:
Do you want to know why at 4K the B580 is 20% faster than the 7600 XT vs only 5% at 1080P? Because the 9800X3D TPU used to test these GPU's, (this is the fastest gaming CPU money can buy right now) is bottlenecking the B580 at 1080P. Imagine what happens with a 10400K or a Ryzen 2600X.
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yeah I'm aware of the B580 being more resource hungry on CPU overhead and it was tested on 9800x3d and only when someone tested on "older" 5600 they discovered the issue.

I could forgive DX9 wrapper as unlikely to play those games anymore, and if older games run in software- new GPU should have enough power to run older games even in that (like emulation on pi5 etc ) but the high CPU overhead I cannot accept.

Although saying that I'm replaying Half Life 2 which is DX9, but it's not demanding so I don't think software mode will be an issue.
 
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Personally, I would place a pre-order if an opportunity appears to get an AIB 9070XT at anything less than 899.

One glance at the disaster zone that is the 5000 pre-order thread is enough. The 5000 series looks like a soft launch for the 5080.

Which means almost no 5070tis.....
 
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hornetstinger said:
16GB is probably better long term, even if you use medium settings in the future you don't know how resource hungry they will be, and I would use it till it's a slideshow in games.

My CPU is Ryzen 7 7700.
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16GB is probably fine for nvidia. But not so much for AMD as it seems they use up more vram than nvidia cards. That's probably why they give us the extra vram as it really isn't extra.

Seen this quite a few times now.



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TheRealDeal said:
Pc gaming is doing fine in a numbers sense. The AAA PC only games died a death a long time ago and will most likely stay that way receiving hand me downs from console. On the indy front PC gaming is booming and bigger than the console market. PC gaming is just as alive as it always was just in a different way.
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Raelgun said:
AAA pc master race gaming is dead, with the acceptance of framegen etc and high prices, it's dead.

Only thing keeping it alive is all of the massive multiplayer games that steam does not have such as world of Warcraft, league of legends and valiant and Fortnite though I argue Fortnite is bigger on consoles.
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They are not wrong as it's the resource hungry AAA games which are being affected. The MMO and MOBA games comprise most of the revenue from PC gaming as a whole.

All these prices are doing is holding back hardware progression for more and more gamers,which slows down how pretty games look.
 
So i assume that confirms they go on sale on the 6th, and then i am flying out of the country on the 8th. I hope they still have stock when I get back :(
 
Legion said:
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AMD Radeon RX 9070 reviews coming March 5, the day RTX 5070 launches - VideoCardz.com

Radeon RX 9070 reviews planned on March 5 AMD has just distributed NDA materials to members of the press. The documents confirm two important dates. On February 28, as already announced, AMD will disclose the first details of the RDNA4 architecture. AMD has imposed a new embargo on this...
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That's actually stupid

The same day is absolutely stupid, it should be the day before better still 2 days before. If the price it right and the reviews are good it would do more damage to have reviews out a day or 2 before the launch to give people a chance to make a choice. Instead people will be fighting over expensive cards rather than reviews.
 
kieran_read said:
That's actually stupid

The same day is absolutely stupid, it should be the day before better still 2 days before. If the price it right and the reviews are good it would do more damage to have reviews out a day or 2 before the launch to give people a chance to make a choice. Instead people will be fighting over expensive cards rather than reviews.
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Nvidia will only have half a dozen in stock anyway so makes no difference :)
 
Besty said:
Updated.

Feb 19th - 5070ti MSRP (unobtainium) reviews
Feb 20th - 5070ti Non-MSRP (pre-scalpled for your pleasure) reviews and 'launch' at OCUK
Feb 28th - AMD Live launch in a studio for 9070 series *confirmed*
March 5th - 5070 non-Ti launch at OCUK
March 5th - 9070 series launch at OCUK *confirmed* *unconfirmed* and now *confirmed*
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updated, for the third time.
 
kieran_read said:
That's actually stupid

The same day is absolutely stupid, it should be the day before better still 2 days before. If the price it right and the reviews are good it would do more damage to have reviews out a day or 2 before the launch to give people a chance to make a choice. Instead people will be fighting over expensive cards rather than reviews.
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Where does it say same day ?
All I see is in that article march 5th reviews and march 6th launch
 
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AMD are being a bit more optimistic on the basis that Nvidia will probably send OCUK 1-2 cards on launch day for the 5070 series :)
 
SkeeterUK said:
The next one is the one to watch for rdna5 or that unified one that i think is coming after rdna4.
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If we keep saying, wait for the next generation like folks have been saying for ages... at what point do we stop?
The way things are going, by that point we'll be paying £1k for 'mainstream' 'budget' GPUs.

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Consumers also have a fiduciary moral responsibility to maximise profits for their own shareholders,ie,themselves.
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Consumers seem to have more money than sense. Which is silly cos consumers these days don't have much money.
Hence the borrowing, debt, etc... £1k smartphones have been normalised by the silly folks who continue to pay that much for them.
Things wouldn't be priced so high, if they didn't sell well at those high prices.
But... as we've seen we've GPUs, companies like Nvidia can charge what they like and folks will pay no matter what.
Scalpers wouldn't be scalping if they weren't able to sell off their scalped goods at silly markups.

GothicGhost said:
The 7900 XT seems very tempting now, coming from 2070 it should be nice upgrade for VR.
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Good luck still finding one at a good price, the stock is running out and I bet will continue to sell like hotcakes following the launches of the upcoming GPUs.
Whoever bought one on 30-day return managed a smart move, they're sorted (i.e. managed to get one before there are no more) if all these new GPUs turn out to be a flop.
 
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