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Have got my eye on a red devil 9070XT or Pulse, just hope the price is right and there is availabilty and dont regret just getting the 7900XT for £629 now. As soon as i seen Nvidia pricing in Jan it was a no from me. Might be rocking my 5700XT a while longer.
 
oooo errrr what's happened to this thread ... I initially called £800 for a top of the line 5070XT and was shouted down (well there was a lot of crying to be fair :D )

Have there been new pricing leaks ?
Possibly £800 for the super silly special edition one. You know, similar to the ridiculously expensive Vanguard launch edition 5070ti :D
 
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It will be interesting to see if you can flash the 9700XT BIOS onto the 9700 to unlock extra performance like with many previous AMD cards like the 5700, Vega 56, R290, etc.
 
It will be interesting to see if you can flash the 9700XT BIOS onto the 9700 to unlock extra performance like with many previous AMD cards like the 5700, Vega 56, R290, etc.

That would be awesome, unlocking the clock speed and power limit is key - just being able to increase clocks will make the 9700 perform very close to the 9700xt
 
It basically means 4K 240Hz will need DSC (Display Stream Compression).

You know, for all those people using a $549 - $599 GPU with a $1500 - $3000 monitor. I think the vast majority are going to be fine :)

Incidentally expect this to become a thing now in some Nvidia biased reviews. AMD DP2.1 has been doing 54Gbps for the past few gens now. Nvidia supported up to 48Gbps on the 4000 series. As such DP bandwidth was not “important”. 5000 series now support full 80Gbps, so expect Nvidia marketing to make this a vitally important point all of a sudden.

This happens regularly where so called “priorities” flip entirely depending on if you are team green or team red.

Conversely, you will now notice that excessive power draw is/isn't important or worth mentioning depending upon your new “priority”.
 
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It basically means 4K 240Hz will need DSC (Display Stream Compression).

You know, for all those people using a $549 - $599 GPU with a $1500 - $3000 monitor. I think the vast majority are going to be fine :)

Incidentally expect this to become a thing now in some Nvidia biased reviews. AMD DP2.1 has been doing 54Gbps for the past few gens now. Nvidia supported up to 48Gbps on the 4000 series. As such DP bandwidth was not “important”. 5000 series now support full 80Gbps, so expect Nvidia marketing to make this a vitally important point all of a sudden.

This happens regularly where so called “priorities” flip entirely depending on if you are team green or team red.

Conversely, you will now notice that excessive power draw is/isn't important or worth mentioning depending upon your new “priority”.
Dp 2.1 with uhbr 20 monitors can be had for £899.
 
You'd think with the 9070 being priced well people wouldn't buy the 4070s. I checked multiple competitors and every single card is gone now lol. Is the 5070 rumoured to be worse than the 4070s or what ? Cause 2 weeks ago I could find plenty of 4070s in stock.
Most people don't keep up with hardware news so likely unaware, but 4070/Super are also quite a bit cheaper by now so not the same buyers.

I'm more than mildly miffed the MBA cards were either a render that either didn't physically exist, or was created in a small batch for internal purposes. Why show it in the slides then at the last minute say "oh btw, this card wont be on sale". Was an interesting looking design with the mesh. I'm guessing actually producing those in mass might well have taken them over the price point they wanted to hit. :(
Easier for real prices to drift up without a real card as an anchor at MSRP for people to point to; also easier for the gap between 70 & 9070 XT to widen rather than the small one that's on paper, because the aibs will have free reign around which premium models to make more of. It's obvious MSRP won't be real for AMD any more than it was for Nvidia. When market conditions are such that there's low supply but huge demand the MSRP is really just for the brands to battle on marketing with it.
 
Dp 2.1 with uhbr 20 monitors can be had for £899.

And that didn’t take long :D

I said the vast majority will be fine and that it means using DSC in those rare fringe cases. This is no different to when 3000 and 4000 series didn’t support such monitors and need DSC.

Oh Noe’s… I was out by $400 on my lower end expensive monitor joke. You did realise it was meant as a joke right?

Yes it would be nice to have full 80Gbps, but I think it’s being overblown all things considered.
 
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I'm more than mildly miffed the MBA cards were either a render that either didn't physically exist, or was created in a small batch for internal purposes. Why show it in the slides then at the last minute say "oh btw, this card wont be on sale". Was an interesting looking design with the mesh. I'm guessing actually producing those in mass might well have taken them over the price point they wanted to hit. :(

It would have been pretty nice for the MBA line if that was a thing this time round. I would have gone for this design even though I don't have a window panel.

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And that didn’t take long :D

I said the vast majority will be fine and that it means using DSC in those rare fringe cases. This is no different to when 3000 and 4000 series didn’t support such monitors and need DSC.

Oh Noe’s… I was out by $400 on my lower end expensive monitor joke. You did realise it was meant as a joke right?

Yes it would be nice to have full 80Gbps, but I think it’s being overblown all things considered.
Yes I agree it's overblown.
 
At least it won't start a fire :p
You don't know that, maybe someone is playing a spooky game by candle light on their 4k 240hz monitor and there is a slight flicker in the corner of the screen caused by dsc artifacting and they get such a shock they knock over the candle onto a convenient pile of oil soaked rags! :P
 
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You don't know that, maybe someone is playing a spooky game by candle light on their 4k 240hz monitor and there is a slight flicker in the corner of the screen caused by dsc artifacting and they get such a shock they knock over the candle onto a convenient pile of oil soaked rags! :P
Would those oil soaked rags have "Supplied by nVidia" written on them?
 
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