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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

I think most threads in this sub-forum, if they go long enough end up with a driver discussion! :D
I have to admit, generally I don't update drivers every release, mostly just if I have issues or need support for a certain game. What do other do, do you upgrade every time there's a new driver?
Also I guess if it's a new GPU I'd get new drivers, as I'd imagine you'd be in for a poor experience otherwise.
Haha true. Personally I do updates every time, as long as their isn't anything standout in the known issues list. As you say, specific game support is a key reason. And certainly if anyone does buy a 9070 it'll need a new driver. :)
 
Worth taking a look at the sapphire web site the new cards are on there and it goes into great detail about them. There top card needs a 750 watt power supply.
 
OK guys looks like no one has decent guestimates

Can we target a range of prices of for the 9070xt ?

I'm thinking

£599 MSRP - Available but impossible for most bar a few lucky ones

£650 - Lowest

£800 - Highest

I'm looking at picking up the Sapphire Nitro+ and have pencilled in £800 for it

What do you guys think ? And please don't daydream prices - be realistic as there's huge demand for these cards and we all know what that means
 
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OK guys looks like no one has decent guestimates

Can we target a range of prices of for the 9070xt ?

I'm thinking

£599 MSRP - Available but impossible for most bar a few lucky ones

£650 - Lowest

£800 - Highest

I'm looking at picking up the Sapphire Nitro+ and have pencilled in £800 for it

What do you guys think ? And please don't daydream prices - be realistic as there's huge demand for these cards and we all know what that means

Apparently the stock levels are quite high, so I'm thinking the initial release will be reasonably priced and if they sell out, you may see prices creep up. I'm hoping for a decent OC card for under £700.
 
XT

700 lowest
900 highest (looking at you Asus)
MSRP non existent.

Knock £50 off for the 9070.

Then in a few months they will drop down to "msrp" or lower with deals.

Stock can be as high as you like, retailers and aib will scalp and come up with some excuse for it.
 
OK guys looks like no one has decent guestimates

Can we target a range of prices of for the 9070xt ?

I'm thinking

£599 MSRP - Available but impossible for most bar a few lucky ones

£650 - Lowest

£800 - Highest

I'm looking at picking up the Sapphire Nitro+ and have pencilled in £800 for it

What do you guys think ? And please don't daydream prices - be realistic as there's huge demand for these cards and we all know what that means
For sure somewhere between £800-£900 for the top tier cards.
 
XT

700 lowest
900 highest (looking at you Asus)
MSRP non existent.

Knock £50 off for the 9070.

Then in a few months they will drop down to "msrp" or lower with deals.

Stock can be as high as you like, retailers and aib will scalp and come up with some excuse for it.

Hasn't Gibbo already said he's expecting 1000s of cards and that they have a good chance of being sold at RRP?
 
So I guess the question is, would a top tier 9070XT be worth it over a bottom-ish tier 5070Ti (supposing there's ever enough stock for us to buy them)?
Performance seems to be pretty close. Think I'm gonna need to see 3rd party reviews of the 9070 XT. Although I'm not sure I'd get a top tier card of either, I'd look for something more mid tier, although it does seem a few brands just seem to do top tier and bottom tier.
 
BTW 9070 XT cheatsheet from reddit, some of you might find it useful

Oh, that could be handy, thanks.

Oh yeah, I totally get the doubt, but if he's expecting 1000s, instead of the 8 5090s or whatever ocuk had on release, I'd say there is a decent possibility of the 9070 being sold at, or close to RRP.
Yeah, I think they'll have 1000s but I think the margins will decide how close they get to MSRP rather than the number of cards.
 
Hasn't Gibbo already said he's expecting 1000s of cards and that they have a good chance of being sold at RRP?

What can I say, I'm jaded over gpu prices and the supposed "msrp" since covid.

Always an excuse for why stuff is higher, can't even have the decency to just say "supply and demand". So I'll believe it when I see it.
 
What can I say, I'm jaded over gpu prices and the supposed "msrp" since covid.

Always an excuse for why stuff is higher, can't even have the decency to just say "supply and demand". So I'll believe it when I see it.

For sure, everybody has our pants down now'a days and they give us the same old excuse, yet the companies that do so are also making crazy profits.
 
Yeh, the 9070xt will likely still run a reasonable amount of new games okish in 5 years, but probably on quite low settings/resolutions.

5 years will be fine, tech isn't moving on that fast now, certainly unlikely to have to play at low resolutions and settings, might not do ultra settings in 5 years but likely medium to high.

The 6800xt still performs perfectly acceptable at high in most games.

Just don't use ray tracing ha ha

But with fsr 4 being as good as purported there's no reason why it couldn't last 5 years
 
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