*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

[humbug]

Didn't the 7900xtx already have 4070 super level RT performance?

In Cyberpunk Ultra RT yes. that was a $1000 card, the 9070 XT and possibly the 9070 None XT will be better as cards priced around the 5070.

The 9070 XT certainly will be while the 9070 at least as good.

Remember tho this is worst case scenario for AMD in RT relative to Nvidia.

 

[Rup]

And what if the retailers up the price? Still AMDs fault?

Yes because AMD can force some MSRP cards like nvidia do. If not they can at least name & shame the guilty retailers.

 

[humbug]

Um.... Jay stop acting dumb, what? Are you afraid Nvidia will stop seeding you GPU's if you talk about VRam? that is why this didn't happen in the 5070 Ti or 5080, just call it for what it is....

 

[Jono8]

Doesn't surprise me, all the tech tubers seem to be massive AMD shills these days. Can't trust what they say really, just have to watch enough and try to figure it out from the data (assuming of course that's unbiased, which is a big assumption).

I don't think it's that.

I think it's more the fact that the 9070 and 9070xt are going to be the better cards from a price/performance perspective this generation. The 5070 particularly looks like it's going to be a poor choice in it's price bracket.

 

[Rup]

Why would you even be after a 9070 if you have a 4090?

For my second PC. One is attached to my racing rig, the other is for all other games.

 

[mahius]

No I know, but it would be very odd for it to only be 7900xt level and not 7900xtx level at this stage.

It would truly fall flat on it's face for such a small performance jump.

$600 = £469 * 1.2 = £562 ie MSRP for the 9070XT inc VAT.
If nothing available at that price, then AMD ripping us off just like Nvidia.

If AMD can't get an RRP card into the hands of everyone that wants one, then it's a massive fail.

Retailers are also to blame, but yes. Unless I can nab one at MSRP... if AMDs vast stock is getting pre-scalped like Nvidia GPUs... I'm out.
Given OCUK's pricing rumours, it's not worth paying well over £600 for any of these, as nice as they are. Thanks for killing the hype train again.

The rest of you guys can enjoy paying well over MSRP, I'll be busy burying the corpse of PC gaming.

 

[humbug]

Doesn't surprise me, all the tech tubers seem to be massive AMD shills these days. Can't trust what they say really, just have to watch enough and try to figure it out from the data (assuming of course that's unbiased, which is a big assumption).

You smell funny.

 

[Icyseanfitz]

It's a damn shame they don't have a $1000 GPU this time, if the 9070xt is at expected performance they really could have had a 4090 competitor

 

[GhostDog1981]

It would truly fall flat on it's face for such a small performance jump.



Retailers are also to blame, but yes. Unless I can nab one at MSRP... if AMDs vast stock is getting pre-scalped like Nvidia GPUs... I'm out.
Given OCUK's pricing rumours, it's not worth paying well over £600 for any of these, as nice as they are. Thanks for killing the hype train again.

The rest of you guys can enjoy paying well over MSRP, I'll be busy burying the corpse of PC gaming.

I think they’ve lost many people like me that probably would have upgraded from lesser 7000 cards that would have been put off with prices north of £600 ($500 msrp + VAT + scalp) for effectively a 7800XT replacement which was already price hiked vs 6700XT by about $50 to $500.

 

[Gerard]

Doesn't surprise me, all the tech tubers seem to be massive AMD shills these days. Can't trust what they say really, just have to watch enough and try to figure it out from the data (assuming of course that's unbiased, which is a big assumption).

And worst take in this entire thread goes to you. Congrats

 

[humbug]

I think they’ve lost many people like me that probably would have upgraded from lesser 7000 cards that would have been put off with prices north of £600 ($500 msrp + VAT + scalp) for effectively a 7800XT replacement which was already price hiked vs 6700XT by about $50 to $500.

$20, $479.99 to $499.99 and for +54% performance and an extra 4GB.

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

And worst take in this entire thread goes to you. Congrats

You wait, I bet they'll be more positive about AMD cards than they have been about Nvidia's.

When they're more positive about Nvidia cards than AMD cards people say it's because they're Nvidia shills and they don't know how to review graphics cards, but what, when they say nice things about AMD it's because they're fair, balanced, unbiased experts at what they do?

 

[Gerard]

You wait, I bet they'll be more positive about AMD cards than they have been about Nvidia's.

Probably because there seems to be more to be positive about for the amd gpus. Price, supply, performance, no leatherbound lunatic making BS claims on stage while getting high off the stench, no missing rops....

But we'll see

 

[GhostDog1981]

$20, $479.99 to $499.99 and for +54% performance and an extra 4GB.

That’s how I justified the price hike when I bought mine as the perf jump and vram buffer was massive vs the 6700XT.

But £600-650 for 50% jump at 1440p but the same vram (16gb) in the 9070XT is a bit much. (I would have got one for £550).

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

Probably because there seems to be more to be positive about for the amd gpus. Price, supply, performance, no leatherbound lunatic making BS claims on stage while getting high off the stench, no missing rops....

But we'll see

It's possible there were times when Nvidia made good graphics cards too, but they still only said good things because they were Nvidia shills and incompetent.

Let's see, tomorrow if they say good things about the AMD cards in reviews we'll know I was right. If they slam the AMD cards as bad or worse than the Nvidia ones then I'll have been wrong.

 

[humbug]

You wait, I bet they'll be more positive about AMD cards than they have been about Nvidia's.

When they're more positive about Nvidia cards than AMD cards people say it's because they're Nvidia shills and they don't know how to review graphics cards, but what, when they say nice things about AMD it's because they're fair, balanced, unbiased experts at what they do?

I have watched all of the big ones other than HUB so far and yes, they are very obviously gearing up to be positive about the 9070 series, all of them, Jay, GN, LTT.

So if you're looking for someone to be down on the 9070 series you might look to HUB, i'm in danger of being proven wrong here, and please if i am do go ahead and prove me wrong, i will be delighted, failing that Hardware Unboxed is where you want to be looking for low mood 9070 series reviews.

As for me i'm excited that most tech tubers at least seem to be excited about the 9070 series, this is good for all of us, including you.

 

[Sargatanas2511]

You wait, I bet they'll be more positive about AMD cards than they have been about Nvidia's.

When they're more positive about Nvidia cards than AMD cards people say it's because they're Nvidia shills and they don't know how to review graphics cards, but what, when they say nice things about AMD it's because they're fair, balanced, unbiased experts at what they do?

So if they are more positive about a card that's better value, actually available, doesn't melt power cables, doesn't have missing parts of the core and isn't way above MSRP than they are about a card that is the wrong end of all of those things, they're AMD shills?

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

So if they are more positive about a card that's better value, actually available, doesn't melt power cables, doesn't have missing parts of the core and isn't way above MSRP than they are about a card that is the wrong end of all of those things, they're AMD shills?

I believe that's how the logic works, yes.

 

[Sargatanas2511]

I believe that's how the logic works, yes.

Ok, just making sure I understand.

May March 5th be forever known as Shillday!

 

[Icyseanfitz]

You wait, I bet they'll be more positive about AMD cards than they have been about Nvidia's.

When they're more positive about Nvidia cards than AMD cards people say it's because they're Nvidia shills and they don't know how to review graphics cards, but what, when they say nice things about AMD it's because they're fair, balanced, unbiased experts at what they do?

I believe they are negative on the 50 launch due to (and I might miss a few) fake MSRP, no supply, burning connectors, crap cables, black screen drivers, horrible generational performance increase, defective cards missing ROPs throughout the entire stack and jenson flat out lying, but maybe they are just biased against Nvidia.....