*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

[Tythus]

£630 is currently $802.75

Check conversion rates yourself if you don't believe me.

we are not doubting that is the case when VALUE ADDED TAX is included but the MSRP that AMD gave was in USD and didn't have sales tax (value added tax) included £630 - 20% VAT = £525

 

[Sumanji]

I'm comparing the price customers pay with the MSRP. Which is the relevant comparison for the question I asked, the point I raised about AMD judging the effect of the pricing compared with the initial pricing of the Radeon 7000 series.

It's easy to conflate multiple factors (in reverse order of application):

1. Variable sales tax by state/country
2. Retailer markups
3. Distributor markups
4. AIB markups
5. MSRP

The MSRP is meaningless, if 1-4 are totally out of AMD's control.

In your original statement:

I wonder if AMD will be judging the effect of this gen's pricing based on MSRP or actual prices.

Cheapest price in the UK looks to be US$800, ~34% above MSRP. So if AMD look at UK sales to judge the effect of their pricing for the Radeon 9000 series, are they going to be assuming that the cards sell for US$600 in the UK and assuming the US$600 MSRP was a failure in terms of increasing sales in the UK?

Why do you think AMD would use the U.S. $600 MSRP excl. tax to gauge UK sales, when 1) there is no officially declared UK MSRP, and 2) that number doesn't take into account the massive sales tax delta between the UK (20%) and the U.S. (0-7.5% depending on state)?

I guess to look at the core of your question, amd would no doubt compare to previous UK launches, all of which would have had vat included in the retail price and go from there. So the 500usd 7800xt for instance, selling for 650ish usd once converted

This is more on the money, though they'll have to do a lot of swag to account for variable markups, which I assume were not as big of a deal 5+ years ago.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I think people misunderstood steve's hints, he said the 9070 non-xt was comparable to the 7900 XT. The point was to convince you not to buy the 5070 tomorrow and wait for the 9070 non-xt reviews.

That sounds more like it!

 

[Sumanji]

There are four 9070XT's models that will fit without issue.

ASRock RX 9070 XT Steel Legend Dark
ASUS PRIME RX 9070 XT OC
GIGABYTE RTX 9070 XT GAMING OC
PowerColor Reaper RX 9070 XT

None of these are awe inspiring, but on the flip side will likely be on the cheaper end of the spectrum.

Still super salty there won't be a reference model

 

[humbug]

But that's automatically a fail
The 5070 is getting roasted

The only reason there's any hope with the 9070XT is 5070ti performance $150 cheaper

I think the performance will range a lot depending on RT titles

5070 can be anywhere from ahead slightly to equal to a decent 10-20 percent behind a 7900XT

Be that as it may then the 9070 might get reduced to $500.

 

[RavenXXX2]

 

[RavenXXX2]

Whoops @hub

 

[ElliorR]

So that’s the scalpers pile, is the pile that’ll go to actual customers in the boxes on the pallet on the left?

 

[StarShock]

All hail the cube

 

[hornetstinger]

is that multi box ai generation?

 

[Sargatanas2511]

All hail the cube

Inside is actually hollow with a PC set up with one of the 9070XTs in it

 

[humbug]

I love the way Steve Burke has an RX 9070 XT on the table during the 5070 review, that's a troll, Nvidia hate that.....

 

[OpenToSuggestions]

Eeeeee just two more days!

 

[GuruJockStrap]

It’s hollow in the centre. It’s just a four sided wall

 

[RavenXXX2]

It’s hollow in the centre. It’s just a four sided wall

Still more there than the whole blackwell supply for the UK to date.

 

[hornetstinger]

Still more there than the whole blackwell supply for the UK to date.

Don't you mean worldwide?

 

[humbug]

Its also just one card from one vendor, its the Sapphire Pulse that Steve has on the table.

 

[harmattan]

Remember that warehouse photo OCUK had proudly posted with all 30 of their original 5080 stock? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

 

[allen175]

OCuk have adjusted their pricing for Asus's cards and so this is how it looks for OCuk's entire XT range until launch day on Thurs...

(anyone still a bit slow to the game, move the decimal point left one place!)

The prices have now changed, they have all gone up.

**EDIT** Nevermind, I logged into my account and it has adjusted for Irish 23% VAT....

 

[humbug]

Remember that warehouse photo OCUK had proudly posted with all 30 of their original 5080 stock? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

That's 120 cards, all the same Sapphire Pulse.