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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

ICDP said:
What was the exchange rate when they were bought by the retailer? The ballpark is like for like USD vs GBP post VAT and import charges.

I’m all for a fair price but I do accept retailers have to make a profit as well. It’s when you see pre-scalped 20% or higher prices that it becomes worrisome. All the morons (sorry I can’t be nice to them) buying up massively pre-scalped 5090s, 5080s and 5070Ti cards told retailers “we are happy to pay”.
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The RRP should include all that. And if you try and use end of January exchange rates it's still much lower,ie,£534 and £581.

But then 5 seconds after launch the prices dynamically go higher at many UK retailers.

If the GBP suddenly tanked expect prices to go up in real time for stock bought at a better exchange rate.

We have all seen this happen.

It's dynamic pricing on how much demand is which was what Nvidia was apparently thinking of - there was news articles on it a while back.

Yet for loads of other items there isn't this isn't issue - if anything the prices are better due to launch offers. Not even PC parts like motherboards and PSUs have this issue.

All this stuff got much worse since Mining and the Pandemic.

Plus if the RX9070XT is essentially near £650 due to dynamic pricing it basically is an RX7900XT replacement and needs to be compared to it. Not that RX7900GRE.

If people buy £700 RX9070XT cards then it's pretty no different than people buying those Nvidia cards massively above RRP.

The RTX5060TI/RX9060XT will be close to £500 street price at this rate.
 
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humbug said:
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I think the interesting thing will be how many games go from unplayable to playable. It won't matter much if the games goes from completely unplayable (with RT) to better but still not really playable. Then obviously if games were already playable then they'll still be playable (you'd hope).

Like I've said, I don't play (m)any RT games and if given the choice will just turn it off anyway as I think people here and HUB have said that few games benefit from it. Still interesting to see though, I guess in part because if Nvidia are to be believed raster improvements are slowing down.
 
djimty said:
I'm torn whether to grab a 9070 XT or go for a OLED monitor. Still rocking a Sapphire 6800 that I grabbed from OCUK 4 years ago in January and the only game I play is PUBG at 1440p. Going to see what the reviews will say tomorrow...
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I have an rx 6800 and bought a 1440p 360hz qdoled last year. And tbh it's pretty great. Even in games where I'm hovering around the 90-100 fps mark the response time on the oled feels fantastic.

That said I am getting the 9070xt assuming something terrible doesn't happen between now and 2pm tomorrow, as the games where I'm pushing over 200 fps is really amazing and I would like that in more games.
 
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Apologies if it has been confirmed before now but looking at the updated pricing for 9070 XT cards can it be assumed that they are 10x the expected price?
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
OFC. If the GBP tanked the prices would immediately go up and if the GBP is stronger the price will take ages to come down.

We will see prices tomorrow and whether the RRP is fake. Seems like AIB partners/retailers might try and push the RX9070 non XT to the RRP of the RX9070XT.

So the RX9070XT would need to compared to the RX7900XT and not the RX7900GRE as AMD indicated due to scalping by retailers and partners.

This is the problem when there isn't any reference card at RRP to anchor pricing - retailers and partners can make up pricing on that fly.

There really needs to be some investigation from the EU/UK on how PC parts are priced as RRP is increasingly misleading consumers. I don't seem to have all these issues with buying other items at RRP at launch in the UK.
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I can't find the video but there is footage of the 9070 XT reference design inside a demo case at CES, it does seem to look like the renders.

They existed. I'm guessing AMD cancelled the reference cards due to pressure from board partners, reference cards have been a bone of contention with them especially given that AMD's recent designs are not just capable but also have a tasteful quality aesthetic that is quite appealing to people, me for example, i don't like very busy complex gamery designs that a lot of them go with, the mat black RDNA 3 designs are really quite elegant with just a little cheeky flair with the 3 red fins.

Its a shame to lose them now as they become EOL.

They are good designs and AIB's find that quite annoying, especially when those cards also set the base price, AMD went through the expense of designing these coolers, and its not cheep, there is a lot of engineering involved and good quality artists are also not cheep, what a shame they never saw the light of day....
 
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humbug said:
I can't find the video but there is footage of the 9070 XT reference design inside a demo case at CES, it does seem to look like the renders.

They existed. I'm guessing AMD cancelled the reference cards due to pressure from board partners, reference cards have been a bone of contention with them especially given that AMD's recent designs are not just capable but also have a tasteful quality aesthetic that is quite appealing to people, me for example, i don't like very busy complex gamery designs that a lot of them go with, the mat black RDNA 3 designs are really quite graceful with just a little cheeky flair with the 3 red fins.

Its a shame to lose them now as they become EOL.

They are good designs and AIB's find that quite annoying, especially when those cards also set the base price, AMD went through the expense of designing these coolers, and its not cheep, there is a lot of engineering involved and good quality artists are also not cheep, what a shame they never saw the light of day....
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Just look at the RX9070 non-XT? It has a 220W rated board power which is less than an RX7700XT.

You don't need all these stupidly large coolers and PCBs which is just jacking up the price and power. People are literally needing to use spreadsheets to decide if cards will fit their cases. These partners are not helping AMD at all.

Sapphire seems to understand this as their entry level RX9070 essentially uses the same shorter cooler from the RX7700XT Pulse which is excellent.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Just look at the RX9070 non-XT? It has a 220W rated board power which is less than an RX7700XT.

You don't need all these stupidly large coolers and PCBs which is just jacking up the price. People are literally needing to use spreadsheets to decide if cards will fit their cases.

Sapphire seems to understand this as their entry level RX9070 essentially uses the same shorter cooler from the RX7700XT Pulse.
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You're talking to some one who has a 7800 XT Sapphire Pulse :D its 280mm long, 129mm wide and 52mm high, actual 2 slot with 2X 95mm fans.

This is a mild 270 watt overclock, up from usual 245 watts, 60c Edge temp, 73c Hotspot, mem 75c with 40% fan speed, its near inaudible and Black Myth is about as much stress as any game can put it through, i've had it running at over 300 watts and its still cool and quiet.

You're right, all it needs to be is good design and engineering, something i have come to associate with Sapphire after owning an MSI Gaming X twice the size and weight and yet with the same or a little less power consumption was no where near as capable.

 
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humbug said:
You're talking to some one who has a 7800 XT Sapphire Pulse :D its 280mm long, 129mm wide and 52mm high, actual 2 slot with 2X 95mm fans.

This is a mild 270 watt overclock, up from usual 245 to watts, 60c Edge temp, 73c Hotspot, mem 75c with 40% fan speed, its near inaudible and Black Myth is about as much stress as any game can put it through, i've had it running at over 300 watts and its still cool and quiet.

You're right, all it needs to be is good design and engineering, something i have come to associate with Sapphire after owning an MSI Gaming X twice the size and weight and yet with the same or a little less power consumption was no where near as capable.

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Exactly. The RX9070 non-XT should actually consume less power than an RTX5070(if you subtract 40W off an RX7800XT which is rated at 263W) and will be faster. Instead these partners are jacking up the power so they can try and charge more.

I hope the Sapphire Pulse and Powercolor Reaper are close to reference specifications.

Thekwango said:
do we know what time reviews will release at today?
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2PM.
 
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humbug said:
You're talking to some one who has a 7800 XT Sapphire Pulse :D its 280mm long, 129mm wide and 52mm high, actual 2 slot with 2X 95mm fans.
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Sorry but as someone that spent a fair amount of time looking for 2 slot cards, 52mm is not 2 slot. ~40mm is 2 slot. It got quite annoying looking for 2 slot cards...
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
Sorry but as someone that spent a fair amount of time looking for 2 slot cards, 52mm is not 2 slot. ~40mm is 2 slot. It got quite annoying looking for 2 slot cards...
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The RX9070/RX9070XT Reaper is 2 slot. The Pulse is 2.5 slot.
ChosenName said:
Indeed - that was my assumption. Do you know if it has been officially confirmed or otherwise hinted at by OcUK staff?
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It hasn't but the prices looked very specific.
 
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