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Wrong, as he mentions its got two seperate dedicated fuses connecting to two seperate 12v rails (1:30), my understanding is the Nvidia cards dont even bother doing that.
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Wrong, as he mentions its got two seperate dedicated fuses connecting to two seperate 12v rails (1:30), my understanding is the Nvidia cards dont even bother doing that.
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I would suspect a lot of that is due to the fact they've been winding up and focusing on RDNA4 to get it ready and also to implement some of the new features coming. It's not an irrelevant point though. It's very easy to forget just how much larger Nvidia's driver dept is.
But even Nvidia’s so called day one driver support does not add performance or increase stability. I have tested this myself many times over the years on my 1080, 2080, 3080 and 4080 (and was hoping for an 5080 but they suck). This infatuation with “day one” drivers is yet another myth. In many cases these day one drivers bring zero tangible benefits to the actual specific game. The vast majority of times it is a profile addition to “optimise” and is worded as “added support for” that usually means little to nothing.
Don’t believe me, if you have Nvidia just do a before and after test to find out for yourself.
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Not true, watch the whole video.
The problem with the 12v high power connector is if short circuits or there is a bad connection the load moves to a small part of the circuit and with that it overheats to the point of melting.
What Sapphire did was split the circuit in to two, added some filters to smooth out transient spikes and 20A fuses in each of the the circuits they just created.
Ok so the fuse in its self should stop the melting, except Sapphire were smart enough to realise that simply adding a fuse in to the circuit would not work because it would have to get to around 40 Amps to trigger it, that is already too high, the cables are already smouldering before then, that is why the split the circuit in to two and then added 20 Amp fuses in to each, so if it shorts or if there is any high resistance it will trigger the fuse at 20 Amps, this is not enough to melt the cables.
That's pretty clever and Nvidia have been using this thing for 5 years, they are still melting cables now, first try Sapphire solved it.
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@ICDPlol, stop trying to convince yourself you are some paragon of truth. KCD2 is about 10% lower than it should be on AMD, hardly terrible. Oh no my 7900 XT gets 92 instead of 100 FPS at 1440p. This game is unplayable
AMD driver support has been perfectly fine and overall more stable than Nvidia this past year. Being a bit slow on the latest game is worth that stability. In fact I stopped upgrading my 4080 drivers months ago for this very reason. The latest ones introduced some stutter in some games and I had to “upgrade” to the pre Christmas drivers.
Out of interest which drivers did you go back to?
I've also noticed similar stuttering sometimes, and at first I thought it was an unstable OC whilst I was dialing my laptop in, but pulling it back hasn't done anything to resolve it, leading me to believe all I've done is reduced performance/power consumption and made my laptop run slightly cooler
It's not terrible, but it's annoying enough I'd happily go to some older drivers to resolve it.
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Not sure where you get your drivers from but...
Latest AMD Radeon Graphics Drivers 25.2.1 Beta Download
Download the latest AMD Radeon drivers for best game performance, compatibility and to fix driver issues. Radeon Adrenalin comes with a completely
And the list goes on if you click on the show older versions link.
I was getting major slow downs and some stutter in Elden Ring (my son and I play seamless co-op mod). I had to go back to 560.94 which are from August.
You can get FSR4 working in ANY game that has DLSS. Just use the Optiscaler mod.
I have a 3080FE and will be going for one of the msrp cards sinc eI reckon a 30%+ gain is worth it at 1440P. If I can't get one for MSRP then will wait for prices to settle back down in a few months.
Not sure where you get your drivers from but...
Latest AMD Radeon Graphics Drivers 25.2.1 Beta Download
Download the latest AMD Radeon drivers for best game performance, compatibility and to fix driver issues. Radeon Adrenalin comes with a completelywww.techpowerup.com
And the list goes on if you click on the show older versions link.
Ok 3 WHQL drivers in 6 months, not 2, i'm not a beta tester, i'm an NDA tester for Star Citizen, my sanity has already taken a hit dealing with that....
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Weirdest fix ever but I solved stutter in Elden Ring by uninstalling the Logitech mouse software I used at the time.
thanks for that informative breakdown mate.
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Thanks, will give them a shot and see if it makes any noticeable difference in the places I've noticed it.
It's just fine tbh. I'm not surprised by FSR 4 because XeSS already showed it was not a difficult development (and hell, so did non-ML solutions when tweaked) it just required them to have that ML HW in the first place, because that was the obstacle - the main difference for SR has been the acceleration, that's why DLSS/XeSS ended up being clearly better than FSR, they had dedicated HW and that meant a LOT of extra acceleration, the fundamentals are otherwise the same. It's a bit different now, as DLSS adds things like ray reconstruction (crucial for PT, imo PT's unusable without it) and starts adding other things to it wrt neural rendering etc; the upscaling/AA part has always been straightforward tho.You just hate AMD mate and everything you say is designed to make them look bad.
On a serious note, what was your thought's on the 9070XT? The main thing that impressed me is FSR4 if I am being honest. They did a very nice leap there. The rest of it was not as good as AMD made sound like and I honestly don't think £600 will be the normal price point based on what I have heard.
Overall I am much happier with what they have done here compared to 7000 series. But mainly because nvidia had a crap launch.
They need to really push and get FSR4 in many games now. If they can do this they will be a real option for me next gen. For now I am staying put on my 4070Ti as I have no need to upgrade right now as my huge backlog of games all run very well for my needs.
If I step back and look at it, the only reason anyone's excited is due to price (and that's crucial ofc but seems like a temporary situation). It hit me when watching the DF review that I don't remember the last time when AMD was genuinely fighting (like AMD's better in X, but Nvidia is better in Y game), now it's just "omg look at how close it gets to 70/Ti!" but never really (with the sole exception of CoD) AMD's just better. I hate that the excitement is about how these GPUs are almost as good, rather than just bitch slapping the hell out of Nvidia, I mean a genuine contender. Personally I can't condone celebrating "we're almost as good", that's just a pathetic mindset, you celebrate when you win and are better.
It's not the end of the world, and I didn't really expect better this gen (I've said for years, AMD's all about the console cycle and desktop follows that), but it does make me a bit sad. The 9070 XT is still worse in every way than a 5070 Ti except for price, and we'll see how well even that holds. Given that, outside the 5090, Nvidia's basically re-heated the 4000 series, it should be concerning that this is the best AMD can do with an extra 2 years, especially since the high end is still wide open. Nvidia can fight across the entire range & win, AMD can do 'close enough' in the mid range (so long as they heavily discount), Intel can do almost enough in the low end (if I'm being generous; and selling at a loss). If Nvidia starts pushing more volume again this won't even be a discussion. Let's not ignore, if GPUs don't gain massive performance bumps every generation then that means the price difference means so much less (because it's spread out over more years) but the software features & driver support & efficiency mean so much more.
Certainly the 5000 series don't fill me with excitement either. Luckily for me, I have no game on the horizon where I feel the need (not want) to upgrade for, so I can just keep patiently waiting.
Which says more about MS certification and that a thing called Christmas exist than anything IMO.
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It only started when I installed the latest Nvidia drivers for KCD2. Incidentally regressing back to the earlier drivers did not impact KCD2 performance.
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It does look like they have improved on the design. Its still a stupid connector though. How long before cards get two 12VHP connectors on them? Having three 8 pin connectors, while a lot less melty, is still stupid. Give me an XT120 (sustained 720W) style connector, put one on the card and the same on the PSU. Just two fat cables. Then we could buy or make just the right length, perfectly routed in the case. If everyone used the same connector at the PSU end too, OCUK could sell them in varying lengths every 2cm or so. job done. The 24 pin connector is needlessly big too, though it doesn't cause many issues. What ever happened to ATX12VO?
Rant over.... ive been looking at cars, with all the silly features and design choices and i'm irritated by all the stupid.
After saying i wouldn't upgrade my 7900XT i sold it earlier in the week for a good price with the intention of getting a 9070XT Taichi today but saw overclockers has the Gainward 5080 instock yesterday so bought that on impulse (not cheap!). Really considering sending it back and saving a good chunk of money and getting the 9070XT as intended.