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Even that 200 doesn't really buy you a meaningful difference either, as you say it's a 5080 or more for anything really significant and that's just a handful of games. Seems a strange financial decision to me.The problem is that would have made it significantly less of a leap in quality and it would still trail DLSS. The first step needed to close the gap to remove the perceived Nvidia advantages. AMD have achieved that to the point the differences are so minor that they are arguably extremely expensive edge case advantages. Nice to haves instead of must haves.
To get any actual minor advantage in RT you need to pay £180 - £200 more in real prices for a 5070Ti. Or almost double that for the terrible value real 5080 street prices.
As the dust settles on this round of releases AMD are the biggest winners. By no means perfect, but a damn sight better than Nvidia’s omnishambles.
A little, the coder does say not to run it on online games with anticheat. I just use it on single player games.Is there any concern of optiscaler being picked up by various anticheats that pick up injection software?
Hmm, I think I would be nervous even having it on the PC if that's the case.A little, the coder does say not to run it on online games with anticheat. I just use it on single player games.
Same card mate, its a high refresh rate 1440P card, it doesn't need upgrading and probably wont for a couple of years yet.
Even that 200 doesn't really buy you a meaningful difference either, as you say it's a 5080 or more for anything really significant and that's just a handful of games. Seems a strange financial decision to me.
Yeah, it's just a shame that so few people will get the benefit of it, for now.The problem is that would have made it significantly less of a leap in quality and it would still trail DLSS. The first step needed to close the gap to remove the perceived Nvidia advantages. AMD have achieved that to the point the differences are so minor that they are arguably extremely expensive edge case advantages. Nice to haves instead of must haves.
To get any actual minor advantage in RT you need to pay £180 - £200 more in real prices for a 5070Ti. Or almost double that for the terrible value real 5080 street prices.
As the dust settles on this round of releases AMD are the biggest winners. By no means perfect, but a damn sight better than Nvidia’s omnishambles.
To be honest though this isn't planned obsolescence, this is due to lack of hardware. They may get an FSR 4 lite version out which I would applaud but its never going to match dedicated hardware for the job. I don't care for either brand but at some point you have to make a decision as otherwise you will never get rid of that ball and chain.Yeah, it's just a shame that so few people will get the benefit of it, for now.
And when Nvidia make something only available on the newest generation of cards the pitchforks are out with the battlecry of "forced obsolescence!", but when AMD do it everyone cheers.
It's not an active program like that, so you don't have to worry about it in that way. It's very much only applicable per game.Hmm, I think I would be nervous even having it on the PC if that's the case.
And when Nvidia make something only available on the newest generation of cards the pitchforks are out with the battlecry of "forced obsolescence!", but when AMD do it everyone cheers.
To a degree, certainly - however AMD tend to open source their new stuff rather than keep it proprietary to their own GPUs, for which they deserve some credit.Yeah, it's just a shame that so few people will get the benefit of it, for now.
And when Nvidia make something only available on the newest generation of cards the pitchforks are out with the battlecry of "forced obsolescence!", but when AMD do it everyone cheers.
Yeah, it's just a shame that so few people will get the benefit of it, for now.
And when Nvidia make something only available on the newest generation of cards the pitchforks are out with the battlecry of "forced obsolescence!", but when AMD do it everyone cheers.
Difference is AMD are doing it now. So it is okay![]()
When Intel did it, everyone said 'yeah that makes sense'. XeSS available for any GPU - but noticeably better on Intel GPUs as they have dedicated ML hardware for XeSS. So FSR3 is available for all, but FSR4 (using the new dedicated ML harder on the 9000 series for AMD) is surely a sensible approach and no different to what Intel does?Yeah, it's just a shame that so few people will get the benefit of it, for now.
And when Nvidia make something only available on the newest generation of cards the pitchforks are out with the battlecry of "forced obsolescence!", but when AMD do it everyone cheers.
It’s funny how people have different versions of the same events. The majority of the kickback about DLSS (and RT) was because it wasn’t available on the 1000 series and expensive Titan series. So most of the moaning was from Nvidia owners. Given most people own Nvidia it stands to reason, considering the significant market and mind share they have.
AMD fans were already used to Nvidia doing the proprietary crap and having GPUs that didn’t do the latest Nvidia fad. They just sat back and watched until the fad caught up with reality. I mean we are still a few years away from when truly good RT is actually on mainstream GPUs (sub £400).
So it isn’t the AMD “fans” having a sudden change of heart at all, they’re just happy that AMD have made actual measurable progress in the areas that were important… well according to all the Nvidia fans anyway
Note: I had a 980Ti, 1080, 2080, 3080 and now a 4080. I obviously just follow whatever Nvidia marketing throw my way![]()