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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

ICDP said:
Nice bit of revisionism. Most found the 7900 XT (and to a lesser extent the XTX) an appalling price on release. Even AMD fans said it was a good GPU priced very VERY poorly. AMD were called out for renaming their x800 tier and raising the prices. Yet both these GPUs reviewed very well.

The problem being called out with people not buying AMD is when AMD do actually review well, have good prices, better performance than Nvidia and yet still sell poorly in comparison to Nvidia. 6700 XT or 7800 XT for example. The 7800 XT was the 6700 XT replacement and was priced accordingly and as such was considerably better than the equivalent Nvidia GPU.

Now my take on this is Nvidia market share is more (not exclusively) down to OEMs than the tiny fraction of people like us at enthusiast level. The vast majority do not build or even upgrade their own PCs and don’t care about DLSS > FSR or Ray Tracing. They certainly aren’t going to zoom in to 400% and claim they aren’t pixel peeping. They just buy prebuilds or laptops to play games on. And they tend to have Nvidia products built in.
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I agree, my first PC an OEM from a competitor in 2004 came with an Nvidia GPU card pre-installed. A lot of PC users will be exposed to this surreptitious marketing like I was.

I think AMD should capitalise in its marketing that PlayStation and Xbox both use its chips. It is ironic that AMD powers a huge segment of the gaming market...Just not on PC.
 
Tbh I’m waiting for UDNA hoping it will be like the 6000 series in terms of shaking up Nvidia’s monopoly of the high end. I want RDNA 4 aka 8800xt to do well so that AMD don’t give up on UDNA.
 
GhostDog1981 said:
Tbh I’m waiting for UDNA hoping it will be like the 6000 series in terms of shaking up Nvidia’s monopoly of the high end. I want RDNA 4 aka 8800xt to do well so that AMD don’t give up on UDNA.
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I'd like this too. Not sure I can wait that long unfortunately so I'll likely take the route 8800XT then UDNA 2 or 3, provided it's palatable.
 
Is it just the “flagship” that’s being announced at CES or will the 8600 and 8700 class cards come out as well? Would be nice if they dropped before Nvidia dropped theirs.
 
Interesting to see the variety in leaks when comparing the red and green. We know exactly what cards Nvidia are announcing but their performance is still somewhat unknown. We don’t know what cards AMD are releasing but we have a decent estimate on the performance of the 8800xt.(At least to the best of my knowledge which is admittedly not much.) I think it would be better for AMD to release their 600 class card earlier in order to compete with the b580 and 5060 before it comes out.
 
It does seem like amd is going to have a compressed stack, maybe just 3 cards 8800 8600 and maybe 8700, though not seen anyone talk about it. I agree it kind of makes sense to get the 8600 out the door as soon as possible to try capture some of the b580s hype and like let's say it's 7700xt like performance for ~$250. I feel like that would be a pretty easy card to reccomend for the majority of people either just getting in or upgrading from an entry level machine from 2 or 3 generations ago.
 
StarShock said:
It does seem like amd is going to have a compressed stack, maybe just 3 cards 8800 8600 and maybe 8700, though not seen anyone talk about it. I agree it kind of makes sense to get the 8600 out the door as soon as possible to try capture some of the b580s hype and like let's say it's 7700xt like performance for ~$250. I feel like that would be a pretty easy card to reccomend for the majority of people either just getting in or upgrading from an entry level machine from 2 or 3 generations ago.
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Maybe because 8600 and 8700 or still far away? Nvidia gave AMD free reign on the holiday season but as usual AMD asleep at the wheel obsessed with offloading old inventory that no one cares about.
 
NZXT30 said:
Maybe because 8600 and 8700 or still far away? Nvidia gave AMD free reign on the holiday season but as usual AMD asleep at the wheel obsessed with offloading old inventory that no one cares about.
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Amd haven't had any inventory of most of their cards on their UK eu or us stores for a few months now. The only card on a couple of the stores is the 7800xt. Yet people are still clinging to this fairytale that the 8000 series was meant to launch earlier this year because so called 'leakers' said so...the same leakers that change their info on a minute by minute timeframe.
 
Gerard said:
Amd haven't had any inventory of most of their cards on their UK eu or us stores for a few months now. The only card on a couple of the stores is the 7800xt. Yet people are still clinging to this fairytale that the 8000 series was meant to launch earlier this year because so called 'leakers' said so...the same leakers that change their info on a minute by minute timeframe.
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It has nothing to do with leakers. AMD needs to take advantage of opportunities that very rarely Nvidia hands out to them.
 
NZXT30 said:
It has nothing to do with leakers. AMD needs to take advantage of opportunities that very rarely Nvidia hands out to them.
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Has everything to do with leakers, they peddled that fairytale earlier this year about an rdna 4 launch around September or october months back and people were excited for the launch, then when it turned out not to be the case, it was nothing but angst and drama and the standard amd bashing like they had somehow announced a set in stone date to the public and were unable to meet it.


There was nothing to ever say that amd intended to launch these cards around September or October except leakers dribbling, but that has now been spun by the usual suspects into 'amd missing a chance' or dropping the ball. All based on some bs they read online and somehow took it as fact.

You'd think after nearly 30 years of gpu launches people would be wiser to this, especially on here. But seems it's not the case.
 
Gerard said:
You'd think after nearly 30 years of gpu launches people would be wiser to this, especially on here. But seems it's not the case.
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But then we would neither have the fun of seeing psychopathically-delusional optimism and guessing, nor the launch-day disappoint that warms our old-timer hearts. Once and a while, I like to return to the 100-page Polaris post to relive the halcion days of misplaced enthusiasm -- that was comedy gold. People never learn.

What I recommend to anyone interested in GPU launches is temper your expectations on everything: performance, price, availability -- and the knock it down further a notch or two. This is a generally good predictive methodology, especially woth recent launches.

That said, if 8800xt is a shade near rumors i.e. 4080 for £600, it might be worth our time.
 
Gerard said:
Has everything to do with leakers, they peddled that fairytale earlier this year about an rdna 4 launch around September or october months back and people were excited for the launch, then when it turned out not to be the case, it was nothing but angst and drama and the standard amd bashing like they had somehow announced a set in stone date to the public and were unable to meet it.


There was nothing to ever say that amd intended to launch these cards around September or October except leakers dribbling, but that has now been spun by the usual suspects into 'amd missing a chance' or dropping the ball. All based on some bs they read online and somehow took it as fact.

You'd think after nearly 30 years of gpu launches people would be wiser to this, especially on here. But seems it's not the case.
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Blackwell gpus were delayed due to a design flaw, why did AMD delay their launch too? I can assure you if Nvidia had launched in 2024 so would have AMD.

You're weirdly obsessed with the youtubers you criticize hence you're missing the forest for the trees.
 
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NZXT30 said:
Blackwell gpus were delayed due to a design flaw, why did AMD delay their launch too? I can assure you if Nvidia had launched in 2024 so would have AMD.

You're weirdly obsessed with the youtubers you criticize hence you're missing the forest for the trees.
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And there we go again, claiming amd delayed their launch because 'dA lEaKeRs SaId So'. You can't assure anything about who would have launched a gpu if this or that had happened, so don't even bother.

And you think its odd that in a thread concerning rumours I bring up the leakers who are the source of the rumours (and somehow conflate that with being weirdly obsessed)? WOW, And you talk about missing the forest for the trees? Jesus... But feel free to believe whatever random fairytale best fits your little theories. Meanwhile I'll wait for info from the horses mouth, not the leakers ass.
 
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AMD has discontinued the GRE, can't be a coincedence.... ;)

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AMD reportedly ended production of Radeon RX 7900 GRE Tweakers report that the card will no longer be restocked, AMD is yet to comment. The first Radeon RX 7000 card has reportedly been declared end-of-life. Retailers have confirmed this to Tweakers, who are citing “several confirmations from...
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