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Bidley · Tuesday at 14:18

humbug said:
If its 7900 XT +1% in raster and +45% on top of that in RT it puts it here in Cyberpunk, honestly i don't think its going to do better than that, and its good enough IMO.

The original leak stated 45% RT improved over the XTX, which would be great. But yeah, it will depend on the game and 25% in something like CP would be a massive improvement.

adidan · Tuesday at 15:02

Ross Thomson said:
new to the forum?

I like to poke the pointless bear

TNA · Tuesday at 15:15

JediFragger said:
They don't, but to keep changing shows a complete lack of confidence in said product imo. Just choose one and ******* stick with it!! Weak weak company.

@Gerard sort him out mate :cry:

Gerard · Tuesday at 15:30

TNA said:
@Gerard sort him out mate

Hand me my education device, (baseball bat with nails in it)!!

Poneros · Tuesday at 17:21

humbug said:
If its 7900 XT +1% in raster and +45% on top of that in RT it puts it here in Cyberpunk, honestly i don't think its going to do better than that, and its good enough IMO.

You can tweak RT for CP2077 a lot and maintain great visuals. Hell I can get the RT+PT from Ultra+ and maintain stable fps @ 2560x1080 w/ XeSS Q on a 'mere' RX 6800. Problem is, comparatively it will still be quite weak (and the vram advantage of yesteryear, 8 GB vs 16 GB, is gone) so AMD needs to be very aggressive on pricing for it to matter, because that's their only lever left to pull.

CuriousTomCat · Tuesday at 17:47

humbug said:
Vs 7800 XT

Rumours are 64 CU's (+7%)
At 2.8Ghz base to 3.1Ghz boost, my 7800 XT run's at its advertised boost speed in all games, 2430Mhz, so lets assume a flat 3.Ghz (+23.5%)
Memory: 20Gb/s vs 19.5Gb/s, 625 GB/s vs 640 GB/s (+3%)

The slide below is RDNA 3 overclocked to 2.93Ghz and the +7% CU's added on, IMO this is good for a conservative estimate of the RX 9070 XT.

References.

Surely each CU will have an IPC improvement? Your example is just a higher-tier 7000 card

Bidley · Tuesday at 17:59

Poneros said:
You can tweak RT for CP2077 a lot and maintain great visuals. Hell I can get the RT+PT from Ultra+ and maintain stable fps @ 2560x1080 w/ XeSS Q on a 'mere' RX 6800. Problem is, comparatively it will still be quite weak (and the vram advantage of yesteryear, 8 GB vs 16 GB, is gone) so AMD needs to be very aggressive on pricing for it to matter, because that's their only lever left to pull.

Agreed, AMD appear to be a generation behind on RT so unless there's a multi-generational uplift in this regard I wouldn't expect that to change. Perhaps UDNA will be the watershed.

eeii · Tuesday at 18:02

They need to get their dgpu’s in laptops. This is were I think the penny has dropped for AMD and where the are going to concentrate on.

CuriousTomCat · Tuesday at 18:08

Bidley said:
Agreed, AMD appear to be a generation behind on RT so unless there's a multi-generational uplift in this regard I wouldn't expect that to change. Perhaps UDNA will be the watershed.

Yes AMD did literally release RT in 2020 which was a generation after RTX released in 2018.

Gerard · Tuesday at 18:32

CuriousTomCat said:
Yes AMD did literally release RT in 2020 which was a generation after RTX released in 2018.

And the implementation in rdna gpus wasn't intended to be there so it's performance probably isn't as good as it should be. Udna will probably be when they give a better showing as it'll be there from the get go.

Legion · Wednesday at 19:57

Chinese AIBs expect wider availability of AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT GPUs in February, lower SKUs in March - VideoCardz.com

Radeon RX 9070 XT shipments expected to increase in February Board channels have shared insights from add-in-board sources regarding the upcoming Radeon RX 9000 series launch. According to the source (or more specifically information from “AMD’s internal department”), the company will unveil the...

videocardz.com

Looks like initial supply going to be awful, might only be a handful of MBA cards out in the wilds on release.

Firegod · Wednesday at 20:22

That seems to be aimed at the Chinese Market, reading that board post or have I misread?

Gerard · Wednesday at 23:14

Legion said:
Chinese AIBs expect wider availability of AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT GPUs in February, lower SKUs in March - VideoCardz.com

Radeon RX 9070 XT shipments expected to increase in February Board channels have shared insights from add-in-board sources regarding the upcoming Radeon RX 9000 series launch. According to the source (or more specifically information from “AMD’s internal department”), the company will unveil the...

videocardz.com

Looks like initial supply going to be awful, might only be a handful of MBA cards out in the wilds on release.

This news brought to you by "Expert No.1".

So basically the typical gpu launch for the most part if that's anything to go by.

Grim5 · Wednesday at 23:22

Gerard said:
This news brought to you by "Expert No.1".

So basically the typical gpu launch for the most part if that's anything to go by.

Yep every nvidia and AMD launch for the last 8 years has had paper to absolutely zero launch supply.

I've pre ordered my last 3 GPUs and each one I've not actually received on the launch day, but actually 4-8 weeks after launch day

MyBrainz · Thursday at 22:25

Whats with the 3x 8-pin power connectors on this thing? :eek:

PowerColor teases Radeon RX 9070 XT Red Devil graphics card - VideoCardz.com

PowerColor first to tease next-gen RDNA4 graphics card PowerColor, one of the largest AMD board partners, has shared the first teaser of the next-gen Radeon RX 9070 XT graphics card series. The card is visibly equipped with a new design, possibly resembling a design with an exposed heatsink on...

videocardz.com

Firegod · Thursday at 22:29

Those card pictures are from 7900 series.

MyBrainz · Thursday at 22:31

Firegod said:
Those card pictures are from 7900 series.

Ah gotcha.. didnt even know 7900XT used 3x 8-pin, thought it was less than that lol

Gerard · Thursday at 22:35

Looks vaguely interesting with that vent presumably right behind the gpu mount area.

MyBrainz · Thursday at 22:40

I love the look of the Powercolor cards, bought a Red Devil 5700XT when they came out, looked great but ran terrible (drivers, artifacting etc) so got a refund.

Had a Vega 56 Red Dragon for a while, beast of a card.

If I go with a 9070 this time it'll be Powercolor unless Sapphire can actually make a Nitro without a stupid bright silver backplate, that always puts me off the Nitro.

Legion · 2025-01-03T08:57:14+0000

PowerColor shares a closer look at the Radeon RX 9070 XT Red Devil - VideoCardz.com

Even better look at next-gen RDNA4 card from PowerColor The Red Devil card will be announced next week. PowerColor continues to tease its upcoming Radeon GPU based on the RDNA4 architecture. So far, it is the only AMD board partner sharing new photos of the card, but the information provided is...

videocardz.com

PowerColor Teases Radeon RX 9070 XT "Red Devil" GPU

PowerColor has prepared its highest-end Radeon RX 9070 XT GPU in the "Red Devil" family. In a post on the social media platform X, PowerColor shared the below picture with the following words: "Every edge shines like a gem. Every second burns like fire. If power was in your hands, how would you...

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