Which would put it here, basically = to a 4080, for a higher - mid level GPU, i'm going to be cautious and stick with my original hypophysis of = to a 3090 Ti, i think even that is pushing it.
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Which would put it here, basically = to a 4080, for a higher - mid level GPU, i'm going to be cautious and stick with my original hypophysis of = to a 3090 Ti, i think even that is pushing it.
The RT isn't as horrible on 7000 series or yes to a lesser extent the 6000 series as some people seem to think, its most games that are heavily influenced by Nvidia that are the worst. Hance my deliberately choosing Cyberpunk as the yardstick, that's what every reviewer does.
Doom Eternal everything maxed out 4K, 100Hz.
Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition, everything maxed out 1440P, this was literally a slide show on the 2070 S, the 7800 XT is multiple factors faster with RT.
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I agree, 45% is achievable in RE4 because the RT implementation is very light in that game, I expect less so in Nvidia-sponsored games.Which would put it here, basically = to a 4080, for a higher - mid level GPU, i'm going to be cautious and stick with my original hypophysis of = to a 3090 Ti, i think even that is pushing it.
They just need to get their RT perf a bit closer to their raster to make it a little more balanced and thus more enticing. The 7900xtx is slightly ahead of a 4080 in raster, but for heavily raytraced titles it practically matched a 3080 which is a bit wonky.
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The 7900 XT is faster than the 4070 Ti in three of the examples above, is £100 cheaper, yet has way smaller market share 
It could be £200 cheaper, people will still go Nvidia.The 7900 XT is faster than the 4070 Ti in three of the examples above, is £100 cheaper, yet has way smaller market share
Sadly, yes.
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I know, I'm just fed up of experts on this very forum saying they choose Nvidia because they're better at RT or because of DLSS or because there was a driver issue in 2002 etc.
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Thing is, if you talk to a lot of people, they will still say AMD's drivers suck. It's a perception that's seem to have stuck over the years. That and DLSS is a big selling point, especially for GPU longevity (no matter the intricacies of FSR's performance in comparison). Couple that with people generally buying what they know, which is Nvidia for 90% of people.
Comparatively - outside of enthusiast Youtubers - not much is made of the Nvidia app performance debacle, Adrenalin being far more fully-featured, Nvidia's VRAM stinginess etc.
Comparatively - outside of enthusiast Youtubers - not much is made of the Nvidia app performance debacle, Adrenalin being far more fully-featured, Nvidia's VRAM stinginess etc.
The driver issues are more of a Facebook thing than people on this forum really. Plenty of crayon eaters on there who think the drivers are stuck in 1998, and who will readily admit they've not used an amd card in 15+ years, yet still think they're an authority on driver stability because they read it somewhere once.
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I see we all had the same thought with the outdated driver compaint
Yup, that's generally the whinge especially on Facebook "but muh drivers".
I told you guys previously people care more about performance than price, especially once you go over $400 in price. It looks like the 7900xt is barely beating the 4070ti in those three charts - that's not enough, it needs to beat it by 20% and be $100 cheaper to make people buy it - buyers care much more about the 20% than the $100, in fact keep the $100 and make the 7900xt the same price as the 4070ti, but give now give me 30% more performance and now we're talking, buyers will love this
Undercutting only on price doesn't work at the high end, amd has tried and failed with this tactic on several generations but they never learn. Undercutting Nvidias prices only works on entry to mid range, sub $400 products- people buying these GPus care much more about price than performance and will love a $100 discount
Hopefully with amd focusing more on entry level cards with rdna4 they will have more success with their lower price model cause it for sure does not work at the high end
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If they care more about performance than price (and I agree, by the way), then why would they buy the 4070ti over the 7900xt, if the performance is the same but the 7900xt is cheaper?
It's more about Nvidia being seen as a premium brand. Which is why AMD aiming RDNA4 at the mid/low end is a sound strategy. If they can make the 5070 and below redundant then they'll gain marketshare.
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AMD repeatedly launching late and a few percent cheaper ain't going to cut it,especially when Nvidia has much more stock too. RDNA4 should have been out last year,so the cards were compared to the RTX4000 series. Using old TSMC 4N 5NM and ancient GDDR6 and they still can't get these out,when Nvidia is moving onto GDDR7,which means there will be power savings too.
But AMD is going to launch these when the RTX5000 series is out and will look even more behind and the tariffs will further increase price.
As usual AMD are more concerned with trying to clear out old stock at a minimal discount and match Nvidia pricing. Now we are hearing March is when these cards will actually have volume,this is going to be another disaster unless they are priced cheap. In the end if this is another useless launch,with poorly supported features,limited stock,etc they should honestly just give up and concentrate on consoles and integrated graphics.
99% of people won't bother waiting for them - even those who would consider them.
Ever since their rubbish "we are a premium" brand marketing strategy their share has disintegrated. Nvidia spends lots of money on marketing and features and bothers to do proper launches.If AMD want's to do the same they need to spent more money and effort.
Most system integrators won't touch AMD with a bargepole if they are launching at the same time as Nvidia(or later) and with less volume. The laptop RTX4060 is the second most popular dGPU on Steam,because it's easy to find. AMD cards are hard to find,because system integrators can't be bothered with them.
I would agree with them - why wait for AMD if there is no real advantage in time to market and cost for them over Nvidia? The mainstream RDNA3 cards launched after the RTX4000 equivalents.
The only selling point left for AMD is moar VRAM. But because they launch so late,Nvidia will end up finding ways around that too.
But AMD is going to launch these when the RTX5000 series is out and will look even more behind and the tariffs will further increase price.
As usual AMD are more concerned with trying to clear out old stock at a minimal discount and match Nvidia pricing. Now we are hearing March is when these cards will actually have volume,this is going to be another disaster unless they are priced cheap. In the end if this is another useless launch,with poorly supported features,limited stock,etc they should honestly just give up and concentrate on consoles and integrated graphics.
99% of people won't bother waiting for them - even those who would consider them.
Ever since their rubbish "we are a premium" brand marketing strategy their share has disintegrated. Nvidia spends lots of money on marketing and features and bothers to do proper launches.If AMD want's to do the same they need to spent more money and effort.
Most system integrators won't touch AMD with a bargepole if they are launching at the same time as Nvidia(or later) and with less volume. The laptop RTX4060 is the second most popular dGPU on Steam,because it's easy to find. AMD cards are hard to find,because system integrators can't be bothered with them.
I would agree with them - why wait for AMD if there is no real advantage in time to market and cost for them over Nvidia? The mainstream RDNA3 cards launched after the RTX4000 equivalents.
The only selling point left for AMD is moar VRAM. But because they launch so late,Nvidia will end up finding ways around that too.
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I’m looking forward to seeing the Sapphire designs, the 7000 series Nitro cards were absolutely stunning (I had a 7900XT then a XTX and now a 7700 XT - wish I kept the 7900 XT all along!).
Easily some of the best looking AIB cards I’ve seen for years.
Easily some of the best looking AIB cards I’ve seen for years.
How many times are you going to re-post essentially the same rant from the last lot of weeks? You must have it memorised or in a notepad file at this point for ease of reposting.
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No different than you and others moaning Nvidia is only succeeding because of marketing,being a premium brand,etc and blaming gamers for being stupid. When RDNA4 doesn't sell well I expect it will be the same excuses and blaming fellow forum posters instead of the blame being on AMD.
Most gamers don't keep up with tech - they buy what is available in the market. Go and look for a prebuilt AMD system with an AMD dGPU then? ATI had significantly more exposure in pre-built systems and they kept to their cadences sometimes beating Nvidia by months
I pointed it out several times to people over the last few years about late launches,poor pricing and lack of OEM traction and you disagreed like you are doing now. I was 100% correct on where this would lead to in a few years,especially with the lack of traction in laptops.
Launching delayed products which are technically behind the competition,at a similar price to the competition with less stock was always going to be a disaster.
RDNA4 is launching straight into the release of the RTX5000 series.
Even you are still stuck on a Vega 64 - I at least bought a few of their recent cards. If someone who has such belief in AMD hasn't bought a recent card from them and someone like me who has generally been supportive of them is fed-up then good luck with the general population.
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Still peddling the 'delayed card' thing because so called leakers were totally wrong and had to come up with a reason as to why. Thats like when the radon vii was unveiled, leakers had been predicting rdna to be unveiled, then got it wrong and said a last minute bug delayed the gpu being shown, seems legit.
As for my card, I was on a 3080ti, and before that a 6900xt, i downgraded because my interest in gaming has went downhill, so it's not like I've been using a vega card for several years.