Yeh I may be tempted at nearer £450. Will depend on the relative xt cost at the time.
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Yeh I may be tempted at nearer £450. Will depend on the relative xt cost at the time.
I understand there may be a couple of msrp drops of the XT later in the year also.
Something to consider.
Is AMD using DirectML now?
RDNA4 does use AI upscaling yes. FSR4 is limited to the 9070 and 9070XT. I have seen links to software (google optiscaler) that allows you to force FSR4 in loads of games that use DLSS2 and above. Obviously I have no way to test this but if true then it massively widens support for FSR4 if you have and RDNA4 GPU.
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Overclockers look like they've sold all theirs
The good thing about the 9070 and 9070XT is that new stock seems to appear fairly regularly.
Also as predicted with higher stock flows, the price gouging will be a lot lower than for 5000 series GPUs. Some competitor retailers have been trying to sell the MSRP 9070 XT models at almost £800. Yet we see OCUK at much lower prices (yes still higher than MSRP) occasionally show in stock .
So those £629 9070 XTs seem to be the real street price once things settle down. This will fluctuate with the exchange rates, but those £570 MSRP models may become incredibly rare as Gibbo had alluded to.
It’s not ideal but compared to Nvidia real street prices the 9070 and 9070 XTs look like bargains. If The 9070 and 9070 XT stock situation is far better than we see with Nvidia 5000 series. If AMD can keep stock flowing they will gain market share by default. It’s an ugly win for AMD, but it is a win.
Also as predicted with higher stock flows, the price gouging will be a lot lower than for 5000 series GPUs. Some competitor retailers have been trying to sell the MSRP 9070 XT models at almost £800. Yet we see OCUK at much lower prices (yes still higher than MSRP) occasionally show in stock .
So those £629 9070 XTs seem to be the real street price once things settle down. This will fluctuate with the exchange rates, but those £570 MSRP models may become incredibly rare as Gibbo had alluded to.
It’s not ideal but compared to Nvidia real street prices the 9070 and 9070 XTs look like bargains. If The 9070 and 9070 XT stock situation is far better than we see with Nvidia 5000 series. If AMD can keep stock flowing they will gain market share by default. It’s an ugly win for AMD, but it is a win.
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The higher prices aren't going to be sustainable IMO, the amount of cards sold in a few days across many sellers means that some pent up demand will have been met, the scalpers will slowly lose interest as those who are willing to pay over the odds drops, and stock starts coming in regularly at lower cost than it makes it worth scalping them for.
Nvidia will undoubtedly fix their cluster of a 5xxx launch, and once they've fixed all the issues stock will be more abundant, and they'll be all fighting over price again, with game bundles and retailer support, especially at this ~£500 price. I wouldn't be surprised to see XT's at sub-500 with game value included before the summer is out, and come the end of this year it'll be like the debacle never happened, with black Friday offers trying to shift excess inventory, what is more interesting is who wins the actual value segment of £250-350.
Nvidia will undoubtedly fix their cluster of a 5xxx launch, and once they've fixed all the issues stock will be more abundant, and they'll be all fighting over price again, with game bundles and retailer support, especially at this ~£500 price. I wouldn't be surprised to see XT's at sub-500 with game value included before the summer is out, and come the end of this year it'll be like the debacle never happened, with black Friday offers trying to shift excess inventory, what is more interesting is who wins the actual value segment of £250-350.
Cyberpunk - Optiscaler @ 3440x1440 FSR4 set to performance mode
I haven't tested it myself since I don't have a 9070XT but on their discord some people have FSR4 working in Optiscaler.
If you have a 9070 series card then go ahead and get the appropriate files.
The latest nightly build of Optiscaler is needed : https://github.com/cdozdil/OptiScaler/releases
and the amdxcffx64.dll which can be downloaded from https://download.amd.com/dir/bin/amdxcffx64.dll/67A4D2BC10ad000/ or copied from your Windows/system directory.
I see people be enjoying FSR4.
Where is the upscaling is rubbish and native only crowd disappear?
Indeed. Finally they have upscaling worth using.
They have. Lots elsewhere though.
I'd be surprised if the XT goes under £500 by the summer to be honest. The non XT ...sure.
It depends. If Nvidia sort their stock issues out, demand drops, and the 5070ti does come down to RRP (£729, or even less), it's going to make the higher end of the 9070 xt market look expensive where it is right now be honest. Lots of £700ish models...no thanks if the 5070ti comes down to just over £700.
The 5070ti is the better card. At a couple of hundred pounds more it's too expensive over the 9070xt. If that price difference only becomes £50-£100 though, the 5070ti becomes easier to justify and AMD will start losing out on sales again.
If that happens, then 9070 xt will almost certainly go back to £569 (or even less) with the higher models premium becoming less too.
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Other places seem to be higher priced
There's clearly been a genuine demand which I don't find surprising
Maybe in a few months time I might decide to upgrade, but for now I'm playing dragon age veilguard on my 7800XT and it's fine
I believe this will happen also, which is why I'm willing to wait. Tried at MSRP, it didn't happen so now it's the waiting game for me.
I see people be enjoying FSR4.
Where is the upscaling is rubbish and native only crowd disappear?
The absolute irony. Wait are you here to tell us upscaling sucks after all?
Personally I have been using DLSS since v 2 and even FSR since it released and I even put up with FSR being kinda meh because at 4K it was still OK. It’s quite literally only a handful of people who said they dislike all upscaling.
Your trolling is very poor… 1 out of 5 for effort though
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I don’t think NVIDIA will have lots of stock anytime soon. From what I have been reading they are at their wafer capacity at TSMC and they are struggling to meet data center and AI orders which take precedence due to contractual agreements with corporations and governments. Also, it looks like 5000 series GPUs that are coming though are at an increased price already from the AIB so unless Nvidia find more silicon to crank out reference cards at MSRP we will not see any 5000 series cards close to MSRP in the foreseeable future. Non MSRP is here to stay. You could argue that both Nvidia and AMD have given a false MSRP to start with. They would argue that MSRP is a ‘recommended’ price.
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Lots? I can't find any available anywhere apart from the odd scalper price.
Wouldn't say lots though, few at best
The absolute irony. Wait are you here to tell us upscaling sucks after all?
Personally I have been using DLSS since v 2 and even FSR since it released and I even put up with FSR being kinda meh because at 4K it was still OK. It’s quite literally only a handful of people who said they dislike all upscaling.
Your trolling is very poor… 1 out of 5 for effort though
I think his post is saltiness after realizing FSR4 has not only caught up to DLSS4T but is also better in some cases. Nvidia fanboys never thought it was possible to beat DLSS3 previously.
I own a 3080FE but am very happy AMD has provided a very good alternative. Now there is more choice when it comes to gaming gpu's.
even if 650 is meant to be the new price, current exchange rate is 1.29 to the $..that makes it £503.876* vat so £604. with demand being what it is, aib/retailers have no incentive to drop the price now, but if amd start selling the gpu's silicon going forward at the new price target and enforce the aib to pass the saving to customers, then really can see price dropping back to msrp if supply continues to be good. If nvidia drop price and increase supply, I can see below msrp come black fri
here's hoping anyway..if the 9070 goes sub £500 for black fri, that'll make a great xmas/b'day combo present for my boys as they start uni/A levels
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I think his post is saltiness after realizing FSR4 has not only caught up to DLSS4T but is also better in some cases. Nvidia fanboys never thought it was possible to beat DLSS3 previously.
I own a 3080FE but am very happy AMD has provided a very good alternative. Now there is more choice when it comes to gaming gpu's.
But if AMD GPU department goes bust that means Nvidia will increase your GPU by a factor of ten, reduce the VRAM by a quarter.
What's not to love about that?